"You have to beat a great to become a great" - rubbish

"You have to beat a great to be a great."

We hear this often. Currently we see this phrase bleated most commonly by people who wishes to deride the Klits.

But not only is it untrue, it isn’t even logical.

For example, how did anyone ever get to become a great? Let’s go back to the beginning. Let’s think of the first boxing champion. He would never have been able to beat a great. There were none to beat, he was the first and best. So he could not have been a great.
So the next champ beats the first champ. The second champ isn’t a great because the first champ wasn’t a great – because he had no greats to beat. The third champ also can’t become a great because still no-one has beaten a great.
If the only way to become a great is to beat a great then there would never have been any greats. At least one person has to be able to become a great without defeating a great. The cycle would never be able to begin without this amendment to the rule.

So this rule that “you have to beat a great to be a great” must have exceptions. Otherwise it is impossible that any boxers were ever a great.
Now that we know the rule is not valid, the question is “what else can someone do to prove they are a great”?
Or, in the case of the Klits “Can they become greats in a division that they dominate, without other great heavies to fight against”

The answer is obvious to anyone who knows anything about boxing. Of course they can. Again, let us apply logic.
Let us say that a “great” boxer is an A+.
A very good boxer is an A.
A good boxer is a B.
A journeyman is a C.

Those who would attempt to deny the Klits the opportunity to be called greats would say that they are A grade fighters beating up on B or C grade opposition.
However, an A grade fighter cannot beat up B or C grade opposition forever. Because of this one truth that every boxing fan knows. Styles make fights. An A grade fighter will lose to a B or even a C grade fighter if they are a stylistic mismatch.

So far the Klits have done a pretty good job of demolishing all of the B or C grade fighters. Have they done enough to be considered greats yet? Maybe, maybe not. But if they continue to do what they are doing, even if they don’t have any other great fighters to beat, they can surely eventually be considered as greats within their own right.

Naturally those who hate the Klits for whatever deranged reason will try to say that the Klits have only beaten D grade opponents. Blah blah blah, you know the usual tripe they come up with. But for anyone who appreciates logic, you will see how their arguments are flawed.

 

No, you are being rational. Your point of view is fair.

People are saying that the Klits can never be considered as greats because they fight in what they perceive as the worst period for the heavy division.

 

Yes, yes they did.

Look how that turned out for them.

Given the benefit of this history lesson, you would think that people may be able to put aside their nonsense. You would think that they could make rational or constructive observations.

Instead we get hate-motivated delusions. I felt a need to show that what is being said by some of these people is not supported by logic or even common sense.

 

You and I know this.

But the haters will say anything to attack the Klits. Would you agree that their line of reasoning is actually illogical when analysed with some thought?

 

You have both conveniently missed the part of the original post which explains this.

An A grade fighter will eventually lose to a B or C grade fighter if the lesser fighter is a stylistic mismatch.
So if a fighter fights enough B or C grade fighters and dominates them all, then he has proven that he is not just an A grade fighter but real A+ great fighter.

And Bazooka, you did exactly what I said people would attempt to do in a transparent effort to rob the Klits of any chance to achieve greatness. Seeing the logic of the "styles make fights" rule meaning the Klits do have a chance of being classifed great I already said that people who really wanted to deride them would rush to say that their opposition was actual D level. Or E level. Or whatever it takes to try to stop the Klits from having an opportunity to prove themselves.

Sorry, but it doesn't work. They will fight enough B or C level fighters to prove themselves. Whether they win or not against enough of them to be considered greats is another matter.

They have the opportunity, something that the haters will try to deny them despite logic.