Sweet Pea vs Chavez

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  1. Irishrover91

    Irishrover91 REP 4 SOUTH AFRICA Full Member

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    I dont know how Whitaker drew that fite i onestly had him way ahead in my view that was a jobbing compared to what other people say is bad decision i just cant see how you can give so many round to Chavez...your opinions please.....By the way i watched the fight with no sound better this way as crowd can effect your punch judgement
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Whitaker clearly won that fight but Don King and his judges didnt let his cash cow lose his 0.
     
  3. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Sound or no sound it was obvious Whitaker won. I had Chavez winning two rounds. Absolute robbery.
     
  4. Irishrover91

    Irishrover91 REP 4 SOUTH AFRICA Full Member

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    I had 3 but there you go....that was definatly 1 of sweet peas finest hour
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Same reason why Holy drew with Lennox Lewis. DON KING
     
  6. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think Whitaker walked over Chavez, but he definitely won the fight. This Chavez winding down facing Whitaker who was peaking. It was a terrific performance by Sweet Pea. Amazing.
     
  7. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I have not scored the fight since around the time it happened. I watched in on ppv, and scored it that night. I taped the fight, watched it numerous times, and scored it later. I basically had the same score card watching it live, and while watching it later.

    I gave Chavez rounds 1,2,5, and 9. The rest were Whitaker's by a 10-9 margin.
     
  8. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    From the standpoint of an 8-4 scoring for Pea, a couple of the close rounds (they did transpire) could conceivably have been given to Chávez, thus producing a 6-6 draw.

    Mr. Marvel has said it well: a victory, but no cakewalk for Pea by any means.

    But Pea won that night. Period.
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    I don't agree with those who score it 10-2 or 9-3 for Pea; I had it more like 8-4 or 7-4-1. Chavez was definitely lucky to get the draw, but I've seen even worse decisions than that (unfortunately).
     
  10. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    What's funny is that the Chavez fight is not even the worst robbery of Whitaker's career, the first Jose Ramirez fight is because they gave the fight to Ramirez. I guess fans don't bring that up as often because a rematch was made and Whitaker won the fight clearly again.
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Masterclass from Whitaker (considering the opposition), hard to give Julio any more than 4 rds TBH. Bad decision.

    Rds 3, 7 & 8 were like man v boy in Pea`s favour, lots of close rds tho but the fact JCC never won a single rd in a clear fashion tells the story of the fight.

    Ps. Im a big fan of both so Im definitely not being biased.

    :good
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Whitaker was nowhere near peaking. He peaked three years earlier against Nelson. He was at his peak as a welterweight but was past his prime as a fighter overall.

    His best days were at lightweight.
     
  13. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    116:112 Whitaker
     
  14. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Unique perspective. But okay.

    I think most people recognize that he was still a bit green at lightweight. His physical powers and experience converged in his welterweight career.
     
  15. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am agnostic on this fight. I thought Whitaker won that fight, but he ran too much and really stunk up the place.

    With Chavez, he outfoxed his opponent without running.

    I don't know where people got this idea that boxing was running.