Do You Think There Is Any Footage What So Ever Of The Orginal Joe Walcott?

Mostly needless flamboyance, thus in part the spotty record.

They broadcast dance competitions as well as boxing matches.

 

Yeah as mentioned there is a clip of Walcott talking after he retired working asa janitor for Madison square garden.

 

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Add that to the Joe Frazier was a terrible in-fighter and Sonny Liston fought in a very unimpressive era of list of silly comments made by you.

 

I assume that is him in your avatar, great pic :good

 

This has always nagged at me - was Jersey Joe's idolization not even based on ever seeing his namesake fight? The Demon's career was over three years before he was born. So either he adopted the moniker simply out of pride for his ancestral roots based on hearsay, newspapers, and the like (so then, not conceivably a stylistic inspiration at all) - or film was extant and in circulation in the early part of the last century. :think

 

Yeah, I assume someone had film of Barbados Joe. Either that or tales of him were already legendary.

 

Well he was going to call himself " Jersey Cow Cream " ,but it didnt have that ring to it.

 

Has anyone come across any interviews with Jersey Joe indicating that he'd witnessed his idol's craft firsthand (loosely interpreting firsthand to include the viewing of any amount or quality of film)? :think

 

Well I pretty sure since Jack Dempsey the middleweight died in 1895, and no film on him has seem to never exist in action like John L Sullivan, he Must of been great for a guy named William to just take his name.

Even though Jack Dempsey was not the real name of this middleweight either lol.

 

That's another fine example. Naming yourself after someone that you've never even seen in action (live or otherwise) seems so strange to me - they're basically just taking the word of their idol's contemporary sportswriters at face value on blind faith and using their imagination. It's just inconceivable to me to so profoundly moved by someone's talent as to assimilate their identity based on mere second-hand relation.

 

I imagine it was because Jersey Joe Walcott's parents came from Barbados, or so I've heard.

 

Right, that's why I said it may have simply been pride in his roots - but even with the first Walcott already being a national treasure for the Bajan peoples by that point, the fact remains that unless Joe 2 observed him on film, he's going on nothing but second-hand information. He can hardly in that case be said to have modeled his style after him - any more than one can model their piano playing technique after that of Ludwig van Beethoven.

 

Then again I don't think anyone including Jersey Joe himself has ever claimed that he fought like Barbados Joe. The original Joe Walcott was in fact considered to be the exact opposite of Jersey Joe, stylistically.

He may have been just paying homage. A lot of boxers at the time adopted the names of past great fighters.

 

He payed homage to the legend. He never saw him fight.

 

My guess is that non exests. It dose not mean that non of his fights were filmed but film used to be highly flamable and would also dertorite easly. Enless a cloctor stored it some where in a climet controled vault it dose not exeest. So no one is going to find some old film cleaning out the atiic if they do it may be concered a merical.