Barkley and Duran both fought well. I wouldn't say that Barkley was the one who looked 'shot' simply because the old veteran won a close decision against him. I viewed this fight a few months back, and I came to the conclusion that both boxed and brawled at times. Nobody really had the upperhand over a sustained period of time at long range or close quarters. Duran's defense was probably even better against Leonard.
The point I was making was that prior to the fight, Duran was being viewed as a fighter who past his best, a spent force. From the opening bell, if it wasn't for Duran actually looking older in the face, you'd have no idea who was the fresher fighter in there. Duran was matching Barkley for work rate most of the time, he was landing the cleaner shots in my estimation, and he made Barkley miss on a consistent basis. He was made to silly in there at times, and don't just take my word for it, my .gifs on previous page clearly show Duran effortlessly ducking away from shots. It was a close fight, but not nearly as close as the majority of people here had it. I thought Duran was two points down after 8 rounds, but he then swept the last four rounds on my card. That coupled with the knockdown, it was a huge round for Duran regardless, you have yourself a pretty clear winner. On my card, at least. I'm giving Duran most of the credit here for obvious reasons. Barkley was supposed to win, he was a 3-1 favorite going in. Duran wasn't supposed to see the distance. He saw the distance, and he beat him too. That was Duran's night, but I do give Barkley credit for taking big shots, and competing. I thought Duran brawled when he had to brawl, he seemed quite content to just sit back and counter Barkley's jab and right hand most of the times. He did so effectively, so I'm not surprised he was okay. Once Barkley closed the distance, Duran just went hammer and tong with him. That's what's great about Duran in this fight, he boxed effectively and brawled effectively. I saw no advantage for Barkley on the outside at all.
Why do you think this wouldn't go down well? It's fantastic to read someone who has been petulant and unfair about Duran in the past (I have been a Classic observer for a long time) giving the man his due for one of the very best wins of all-time. I think your thread will go down very, very well indeed. It does with me anyway. I think you are bang on in everything you say here. There are "wins" like Leonard's win over Hagler, where the winner executes a calculated gameplan and nicks a decision. Duran doesn't use those tactics here, he stands right in the eye of the storm, and, 17 years after winning the lightweight title, fights his way to the middleweight title like a timeless warrior. There was one thing I would like to add though which I'm not sure if you noticed or not, and it is yet another layer to Duran's indisputable greatness - this fight is the best example I have ever seen of someone absorbing incredible punishment to the body without ever flinching, retreating, or modifying strategy to increase protection of that area. This is a slightly thick-around-the-middle, ageing Duran, and he takes rounds of vicious, vicious bodyshots from a huge and hard-hitting middleweight, and takes them superbly well. If Duran's body was a chin, it would be Jake LaMotta's!! :nut
I thought it wouldn't go down to well because it seems as though the majority here had it nail bitingly close at the end of 12 rounds. I had Duran up by three points, and I thought he clearly got the better of the exchanges the majority of the time. Good point regarding the body punches. Barkley wanted to slow Duran down as much as possible I think, thinking he'd get him out of there late. Duran ate those shots really well, and I can't recall ever seeing him visibly hurt by one of them. They were crunching shots, perhaps the stand out of Barkley's work all night - except for the left hook in round 8. That was a hell of a shot, and again, Duran took it surprisingly well. I've given Duran a hard time in the past, but I don't have anything bad to say regarding his performance here. It was a thing of beauty. Barkley ain't no great Middleweight, but he was significantly bigger than Duran, and at a very good place in his career - whereas Duran was 37 years of age, a natural Lightweight, expected to be stopped. The opposition doesn't have to be A+ when you have that much stacked against you.
Barkley's tactic of going to the body was sound strategy; You really cannot fault him in any way for his performance. He fought well and his gameplan was sound. Great fighter he wasn't, but in this fight he was very, very good. Duran was just unreal that night, that's all.
How did you score the fight? I had it 7-5. With the knockdown, it was a 3 point favor in Duran's for me.
It had to be with the accuracy & speed Ray throws those punches, Barkely was ponderous by comparison but then again, Roberto was 37 v Barkely & a prime 29 v SRL.
Bloody surreal to see the size difference in this fight. This may be the best win overall in boxing history given all the circumstances,even better than foreman beating moorer at 45. Can anyone see any other lightweight in history doing this? ****in awesome is roberto....
It wasn't too long before the Barkley bout that Duran was in the UK and sparred with Nigel Benn. All the journos were shaking their head at watching the old man. It was universally echoed that the great man should quit. He was an overweight shell of the legend and the fact he was still fighting was bad for boxing. I agreed with them. Nobody wants to see a faded legend getting beaten up by a much bigger man. Iran was great friends with Davey Moore. The truth is that Duran was faded and way past his best when he beat Moore at 154. Unbelievable fighter. What I loved about Roberto is that he always took fights, even whent he odds were stacked against him. With all these so called legends of the ring stipulating all sorts of sh1t in their contracts I always got the feeling that Duran would have slept in his car the night ebfore a big fight if that's what he'd had to do. As good a fighter as you'll ever see.