Tua vs Wlad please.

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  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hold onto those losses (5,6, and 11 years ago)....... HOLD ON TIGHT!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    Why would anyone wanna see Tua vs Klit? It will look like the Lewis fight where Tua could not really catch Lewis! He's just too short to get in good head shots! A taller Arreola had problems cathcing Vitali so assume the same or worse!
     
  3. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Try telling that 2 Lefthook. And he has the gall 2 talk about Klit fans!!! Like I said Tua has a long way 2 go. If Tua was 2 lose he's the type that make all kinds of excuses!!!
     
  4. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No excuses at all. Sanders did well that night, Purrity was tough enough to outlast him, as was Brewster. All I am saying is that these losses don't give away a gameplan Tua can follow. He doesn't have the size southpaw stance of Sanders and if he waita for Wlad to gass, he probably going to get jabbed to death.
     
  5. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    terrible post. Tua is a nobody who has beaten a nobody, unless you are are an anti-klitite or a New Zealander then you are deluded.
     
  6. Pusnuts

    Pusnuts Active Member Full Member

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    Terrible post, Tua has beaten a nobody yes, but hes a top quality heavyweight, just look at his record.

    He probably has the best resume of anyone that hasnt won a belt, only Ray Mercer would compete in recent years and I think he did win a belt
     
  7. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    I could see this match happening.

    But first I want to see Tua vs Arreola.
     
  8. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sadly, Tua probably has a better chance than anyone else out there at the moment. Maybe like 5%.
     
  9. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Here is the thing... like Tyson, Tua has the punchers chance, but only if he has the ability to close the gap and get inside to drop bombs.

    Prime example, Tyson vs. Lennox. In his prime, Tyson used tremendous foot and hand speed to slip punches, get past jab range and land heavy combinations. Tua did that same thing, and maybe still can.

    Tyson lost that speed as he got older. Lennox, who has a great jab, fought a smart fight by using his range, wearing Tyson down, ruining his confidence and then dropping him.

    Wlad (who as Lennox did, trains under Emmanuel Steward) would fight that same fight. It is basically the same fight he fights every time, just like Lennox. Wear them out with the jab, then push right hands through the guard, then hooks/upper cuts until they hit the mat.

    But.. if Tua could close the gap, he could win that fight. Wlad has been dropped by lesser hitters, ie: Sanders.

    That being said.. I don't see any other heavyweights out there with the skills the Klits have. After the two of them the quality of fighters drops 100% to the #3 slots. Tua could feasibly move up the ranks to the top 10 by stomping the tomato can "contenders" out there.

    Could he beat Wlad? Unlikely, but possibly. Could he beat Povetikin, Arreola, *insert other tomato can here*? Absolutely.
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    ^^^This is by far a terrible post. Ruiz, Rahman, Maskeav, Oquendo, Moorer are nobodies? Think before you type stupid.
     
  11. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Slacker,ur comparing Tua 2 Tyson. Tua never had foot speed, hand speed or anything remotely anything like Tyson! Sanders a lesser hitter?! U don't even know what ur talking about!!
     
  12. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Tua has snow ball in hell chance against Wlad. Klitschko with his mechanic style would jab jab jab cross Tua for 12 rounds
     
  13. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Are you kidding me?

    Here are some things you are obviously unaware of:

    1. Tua's KO percentage is 79.63 (won 50 (KO 43)) vs. Sanders 67.39 (won 42 (KO 31))

    Reference for Sanders: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1728&cat=boxer

    Reference for Tua: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=4343&cat=boxer

    2. Tua is ranked 48 in The Ring Magazine 100 Greatest Punchers of All Time. Sanders is not even on the list.

    http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_punchers.htm

    3. Tua has KO/TKO'ed former world champions:
    - Hassim Rahman (first to do so, and Rahman TKO'ed Sanders in 7)
    - Oleg Maskaev (first to do so)
    - John Ruiz (first to do so, and in 10 seconds in the first round!)
    - Fres Oquendo (first to do so, O was undefeated)
    - Michael Moorer (dropped him through the ropes, out cold)

    Outside the Buster Douglas-ish fluke KO with Wlad, Sanders has KO/TKO'ed who, Ross Puritty and Bobby Czyz?

    4. Tyson had great footwork and was a master at slipping punches. Go watch the tapes.

    5. Comparing Tua and Tyson is based on their fighting style. Its the same. Intimidate, close the gap, drop bombs, KO. Again, go watch the tapes.

    You sir, obviously have no idea what you are talking about. But thanks for throwing out your opinion. Next time, do some homework before you start piping up though. K?

    AB
     
  14. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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  15. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Coparing Tua to Tyson is like comparing a Lexus to a pinto! All Tua has is a left hook! Tyson had better defense threw a lot better combos,etc. Sanders was inactive but had more 1st and 2nd rounk ko's then tua. Tua had a better overall career,tho.+ Rahman said he was hit hardest by Sanders not Tua!