Tony Ayala Jr. was a very exciting fighter...

I don't know who you are, I'm not referring to you in these posts:good

 

Well now you do! I assumed you werent referring to me im just putting my opinion out there.

 

Yes, you have to be unbiased. How can an overweight Duran overcome a much stronger version of himself (in terms of ferocity and a suffocating attack)?

When I said Hagler was the only guy who had a chance, I meant at that time. I should've clarified that. As for other MW's from other times, well I'm not necessarily saying Tony would've beaten them all. But given how hard he hit, his Marciano-like attack, natural talent and Lou Duva/Tony Sr., Tony Jr. arguably has a chance against anybody at MW...at the very least he was certain to become champion at 154.

However, I do agree that he better heed Duva's advice on using those underrated defensive skills, though! These top MW's aren't as easy to overpower.

 

Well seeing as a much bigger puncher in Jackson couldn't dominate I doubt that Ayala could.

 

Ayala was a good prospect, but that's all he was. He was also flawed. If he stepped up his opposition, he would have been exposed. Maldonado put him on ***** street and exposed him a bit. Put him in with good fighter who could box a bit or punch, and Tony get's raped, just like he did to those girls.

 

I don't give a **** if Ayala was age 39 or not in 2003, he shouldn't have been KO'd by the average Tony Bonsante on ESPN.......... Ayala had been in training and active with half a dozen comeback wins, minus the loss to Campas in 2000......

Ayala got popped in 2004 for speeding and possessing Heroin in Texas and sent back to the cooler for another 10 yrs..... Ayala has already 5 yrs since his latest bust.... He'll be back on the streets in 2013 or '14......

MR.BILL

 

I can understand people picking Ike to do well, we saw him against two leading contenders and saw him operate well. Ayala..........looked an average banger, ten a penny to anyone with historical knowledge.

 

I dont give a **** if Duran was 39 in 1991, he shouldn't have been KO'd in the 6th round by Pat Lawlor. His previous fights in 1989 were the decision loss to Leonard, and a decision win over...oh yes, Iran Barkley...

 

Both devastating punchers, but Ayala way more talented. Tony either put you out with the left hand, or simply punched holes through your body. Overall a way more efficient, yet controlled, attacker.

 

Yes, because Jackson didn't do those things and to much superior fighters?!?!?!?

Honestly, this is a ridiculous statement. Even going by Jacksons early fights at 154 when he was just bulldozing people, he had higher hands, better combinations and was a much more devastating hitter. You have no credibility.

 

Neither do you. All you have is your bias against Tony.

Not that there was anything wrong with Jackson. He was pre-prime and made some mistakes with McCallum, but unbeatable during his peak.

 

It's NOT bias. It's through watching and observing. You can only use what you have, what we have of Tony really isn't that impressive to an OBJECTIVE eye. You have an avatar of Ayala, you constantly hype him, often bring threads back round to him........who seems biased?!?!?!

 

So 19 brutal KO's in 22 fights isn't impressive? People weren't impressed with George Foreman either before he floored Frazier, who was favored.

Consistently busting up older, more experienced guys as a young amateur, never losing (from age 8 on) isn't impressive either?

 

Mark Breland was a glittering amateur and had a style suited to the Pro Ranks. Was he as good as people thought he would be?

Look at TheGreatA's comparison again, Ayala's power wasn't all that. Also, the footage of him is just NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE.

Impressive, yes, no doubt and I'm always up for watching a two-fisted marauder. But would I hype him as much as you? No.

 

Ayala's power wasn't all that...let's see...Cuevas didn't want to spar with him again...Lamont Kirkland, a LHW, had to be given a standing 8-count...
many seasoned veterans knocked out cold by the young amateur...
Robbie Epps stopped in just 1:32...

Great A forgot to mention this

Davey Moore KO5 Charlie Weir

NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE? Think whatever you want. Technically, Mike Tyson didn't look that impressive either.