Describe Marco Antonio Barrera in one word.

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I said if a punched hit him and he went down then its a KD. I just rewatched that round and you cant see what happens, Morales goes on a knee but hes a bit out of the shot and u cant see if a punch hits him first
     
    PowerPuncher, Oct 5, 2009
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  2. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exciting
     
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  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree, which is why this wasnt a knockdown.

    :good
     
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  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Barrera didn't anything to cause that knockdown. No more should be said on it from my point of view.

    Barrera won the fight for me. He hurt Morales in rounds 7, 9, and 12. Hurt to the point of almost "going", by Morales' own admission.
     
    Addie, Oct 5, 2009
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  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Addie, Ive seen your scorecard for the 1st fight, it seems reasonable, even tho I had Morales winning it was a close & hard to score fight.

    If you have time, Id like to see your cards for the 2nd & 3rd fights because Im baffled how you came up with a draw in fight 2 & a CLEAR Barrera win in fight 3.

    I know my cards for all 3 fights in my head anyway (sad but true) as Ive seen the trilogy a ridiculous amount of times.

    Cheers in advance (whether you do it or not)

    Ps. great gif in your signature with Duran making a fool of Barkely :good
     
    Bill Butcher, Oct 7, 2009
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  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    my scorecards were

    Barrera by 1
    Morales by 1 or 2
    Barrera by 2 or 3
     
    GPater11093, Oct 7, 2009
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  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    To be honest mate, I have no problem with anyone scoring the fight for Morales. He was busier, and anyone who took the shots that Marco landed that night, deserves universal respect. That was the best version that ever existed of Marco, that night, in my opinion. He had a great night against Hamed, but Barrera vs Morales I was the best of Marco. He went toe to toe with fellow ATG in his prime. Hamed was no ATG.

    I'll rescore the fight tomorrow mate. I lent my DVD to a friend, but there's a really great pristine version that I will be obtaining soon, if you know what I mean. :good In all likelihood, I might come out with a slight win for Morales second time round (I've only ever seen this fight the one time), but I'll be honest about it.

    I thought the third fight was a close but clear win. I remember my scorecard almost off hand, but I'll rescore it just for you, Bill. :good I can do this one tonight, so stay tuned.

    Duran was just so supreme that night. :good
     
    Addie, Oct 7, 2009
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  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Cheers :good
     
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Score for MAB/EM III

    Round 1: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 2: 10-9 Morales
    Round 3: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 4: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 5: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 6: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 7: 10-9 Morales
    Round 8: 10-9 Morales
    Round 9: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 0: 10-9 Morales
    Round 11: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 12: 10-9 Morales

    7-5 Barrera :good
     
    Addie, Oct 7, 2009
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  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    We only have 3 rds different, 4, 10 & 11.
    Here`s mine.....

    Round 1: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 2: 10-9 Morales
    Round 3: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 4: 10-9 Morales
    Round 5: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 6: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 7: 10-9 Morales
    Round 8: 10-9 Morales
    Round 9: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 10: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 11: 10-9 Morales
    Round 12: 10-9 Morales

    Rds 10 & 11 we had vice versa so they even themselves out & rd 4 was the only other rd were we disagreed, thats why I had 6-6 & you had 7-5 for MAB.

    IMO, rds 3 & 4 were the most difficult to score... I remember you posted one of these little guys :lol: when I said I scored this fight a draw but if you go back & watch rd 4, Im not saying you`ll give it to EM but you will see that its not laughable for me to give it to EM either.

    Ive never bothered with anyone saying MAB being 2-1 up is the real score, the only thing that gets me is when people have said MAB won all 3 fights OR Barrera won any of the fights clearly/handsdown, not the case at all.

    Cheers for posting your card, I`ll keep an eye out for your fight 2 card :good
     
    Bill Butcher, Oct 7, 2009
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  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Point taken. You're not the only one who had it a draw, Jim Watt also gave enough rounds to Morales to make it even. I can't envision anyone scoring Morales a victory in this though, that would be crazy too me. I want to rewatch fight 2, it's just frustrating hearing the commentators and the crowd all being disappointed, thinking they were going to see a war again.
     
    Addie, Oct 7, 2009
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  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Do what I do mate, watch with 0 sound in contraversial fights, Ive watched the whole trilogy (not straight thru, I take a break between fights obviously :lol:) like that numerous times, it prevents you from being swayed subconsciously by commentators in close rds.

    Ps. fight 2 is a must to watch with no sound for the reasons you mentioned, what you see is a high level boxing match that only gets better the longer it goes, trust me, its a good fight when you dont have morons spoiling it with their **** commentary.

    :good
     
    Bill Butcher, Oct 7, 2009
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  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'll have access to the second fight in about an hour. I'll watch it with the sound off, and I'll post my scorecard. If you're still signed on then cool, if not, we'll discuss it tomorrow.
     
    Addie, Oct 7, 2009
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  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Had to go to bed for work in the morning mate, I got your PM today.

    Did you score that 2nd fight yet or what ?

    :good
     
    Bill Butcher, Oct 8, 2009
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