David Tua vs. Joe Louis , who wins and how ? ,public poll added.

Louis would stop Tua. TKO inside 9 rounds. And Tua's chin is one of the most overrated things in boxing atsch He has one punch resistance but he was never put under a long beating where he would get hit continously with big bombs for a period of rounds as he would by Joe Louis who would score on the kiwi's head with ease and often too.

 

I think it would be a great fight, but Louis stops Tua sooner or later. They both have power and heart, but Louis has a much more varied set of skills.

Louis by KO or TKO

 

With 12 rounds scheduled, I'm assuming we have a modern referee here. In that case, I think the fight is stopped in the later rounds and Joe Louis wins.

 

As much as I love Tua, I think Joe Louis would win this. But I do give Tua 'puncher's chance.' I'd be lying if I said it was never possible for Tua to hurt Joe.

 

tua never faced someone like joe. he faced people wo hit hard. but joe didný only hit hard he was pretty fast and it was not just punch by punch but a lot of combinations. i think ko or tko within 8 rounds

 

A strange one for me.

Now, of course the obvious choice is Louis (and rightly so) but let's think of a few things.

One; Louis is probably too static and hittable to avoid getting hit, and Tua is a devastating combination puncher, especially when he sees an opponent hurt. It's possible to say that Tua is one of the hardest punchers prime Louis was in with, and he could be dropped and/or hurt by lesser punchers (Galento comes to mind, Schmeling another) and it's a certainty that with Tua's chin and staying power he IS going to catch Louis at some point, or, as Baer did at the end of the first round, rush Louis and force him into an exchange.

Now, Tua is not overly slow for a short, chunky guy. he relies on a good chin but unlike a safety first Louis he is going to be getting hit with a LOT of percise, compact combinations by possibly the hardest heavyweight puncher of all time (definitely the best in terms of technique)

Now, the question is CAN Prime Louis take these rushes? He was bigger and sturdier against Marciano but he was a shell of a fighter. Although a claim can be made that 'Shot Louis took Marciano for rounds before getting stopped' I personally don't believe Marciano hits as hard (in terms of force) than Tua. Tua is heavier and has bombed out bigger guys than Marciano. Fact.

Now, Tua is not the offensive machine that Marciano was, and as anyone who has really watched The Rock will know, there are a lot of nuances to his game that Tua does not possess.

Now, can I make a claim for Tua to win? Yes. If he catches Louis with a bomb in an exchange there's every chance he hits him with free more and sparks him clean (Louis was fairly static and certainly not the kinda' safety first fighter Lennox was, stunned by Tua he isn't going to have the big arms to cover up or the sheer mass to hold on) but personally I see Louis staving off some of Tua's attacks and by the fact of him being CLEARLY the better fighter overall, I'm confident in my pick.

Louis K.O 6. Regardless of Tua's chin, his style and the fact he is hittable is not good against Louis. I personally regards Tua as a fantastic finisher but Louis isn't going to prvent these oppurtunities on a plate, and Tua has shown that he can be lackadaisical if not given a window in which to do his best.

I don't think Louis drops Tua but the combinations would take his Pineapple hairdo off........Beaten and seriously hurt for the first time in his career Tua is forced back into the ropes where he stands, hands up, taking a shellacking, Richard Steele, a wise choice for this time machine matchup, saves the brave Kiwi on his feet.

 

Why I'm giving this much thought to a FrankenWank thread I don't know, but I'm stoned and found that enjoyable.

 

Tua's hook is a big worry...he can take Joe out if it lands right, no question.

The problem with Tua though is punch and chin aside, he was lacking in several areas. He was outboxed by Byrd, by Rahman and by Maskaev, and none are hall of famers regarding boxing skills.
Tua did catch up to Maskaev and Rahman eventually, but it was touch and go. Rahman for my money deserved the decision in their rematch.

So for all his vaunted power, against the better fighters, Tua often battled to find a home for his big weapon. One other thing he had going for him is that, unlike many big punchers, he carried his power late. Joe would have to be wary of that.

Joe in contrast to Tua, is in my mind the most complete of the heavyweight champions. His one weakness (if you want to call it that) is that he battled against guys with excellent lareral movement. That's a non-issue here.

He may lack Tua's outright power, but certainly he could punch with the best of them, and he'd back up a spearing jab with combinations to head and body. He'd set traps for the incoming Tua, back up an inch or two and bam, bam, bam...

Provided Joe doesn't get careless or sloppy, I see him breaking Tua down piece by piece. Tua's tough so he may go the distance, but his face would look pretty horrible afterwards.

 

Tua by late round stoppage

 

I am going to question it actualy because although Louis was dropped a lot of times, he was only stopped after sustained beatdowns by heavy punchers, and he was in the ring with a lot of world class power punchers over the course of his career.

Louis being taken out with a single punch is taking us into uncharted teritory when an awfull lot of teritory has already been charted.

 

Tua can take a good shot. He's powerful. If we assume he doesn't shut down like he did against Lewis, Louis is in trouble.

 

louis gets shaken in this but beats out a decision win or might get a late stoppage

 

What about vs. Ibeabuchi?