A Question Regarding Kelly Pavlik Vs Bernard Hopkins

I Know there was a lot of commotion about this fight and kelly's supposed "sickness" and kelly not being at his natural weight..

my question is regarding this fight is....

how much did the 10 pounds have to actually deal with the fight? i mean I have never had to weight drain and do all that other stuff so i personally wouldnt know... but wouldnt it be almost an advantage for kelly to be able to come in with those extra 9 or 10 poudns? because i doubt 160 is his walking aroudn weight.... at 169-170 atleast i feel like he could have just stepped right into the ring at a natural weight..

anyone who can shed some light on this ..

thanks

 

do u ever stop trying to get at pavlik any way you can? its kinda like you are tying to convince yourself that willimas is going to win the fight.

 

The extra 10 lbs didn't do anything good for him.

IMO they made him perform even worse,he was slower,sluggish,lost speed,seemed to hanve no pop in his punches,moved slower.

I always thought Pavlik can't carry weight well.Maybe he could be a good SMW but a LHW?Nope.

 

Nothing against Pavlik but PW is going to win, Pavlik was exposed and is all downhill from here.

 

I think Hopkins had the perfect style to beat him anyway, but I do think it affected Pavlik. After all, he wasn't all that impressive against Taylor in the 166 catchweight rematch. I think it slowed him down a bit and made him a bit more flat-footed. I'm not sure what his walking around weight is, but I don't think it's all that much. He's a pretty skinny guy, he just strikes me as having high metabolism and being quite thin at all times. My guess is south of 175 anyway.

 

Exposed? Since when did PW have the experience, ring IQ, defence & discipline of Bernard Hopkins? Make no mistake, he's a very good fighter is Williams, but very, very few people in boxing today would be able to replicate that Hopkins did to Pavlik, and I doubt PW is one of them.

 

You're right.

I read some time ago his walk around weight is 176.

 

Walk isn't looking for answers. He's just looking for a reason to start a Pavlik bashing thread. Everyone who actually wants honest answers already read Thomas Hauser's article: http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/pavlik-hopkins-boxing-is-a-cruel-teacher

 

so the 10 extra pounds did affect him negatively?

i mean not that i have trained or had to weight drain or anything but it seems to me like fighting with 10 extra poudns (closer to your natural weight) would do nothing but benefit you... not even in reference to this fight but just in general..


wouldnt you be more stronger, hearty, quicker, more aware with the extra weight? since it is indeed your natural weight... its not like he's eating steaks or something trying to put on 30 poudsn or some crazy ****

man please....

check my history... i dont make "bashing threads" and if i wanted to i would flat out make a thread saying how i felt.... i'm asking a question about weight

 

weight didnt play a factor.....kelly just got his a..s kicked...hopkins is just a better fighter. they could have fought at any weight and kelly would have still lost.

 

IMO Walking around weight is not the same as "training" weight. Training weight you have more zip, more stamina. Walking around weight would do nothing more than make you slower and sluggish. I think it was one of many factors in the loss to bernard. If you recall, Loew stated that Kelly fights better at 60. We will soon see him back at his "training" weight and will see the outcome very soon. Fight of the Year IMO.

 

The weight affcts you negatively when a big part of your game is impposing your size againt your opponent.

Whereas with Hopkins it didn't work.

But after watching the fight I feel Bernard would have beaten him regardless.

 

loew would obviously say that... but this pretty much answers my question.... i still think walking around weight would be better... you would be more natural comfortable with your self physically....

well i guess another thing is

what is walking around weight though

cause walking aroudn weight for some might = i am not training right now
or
walking aroudn weight might be = im training 365 days a years but im not cutting weight

get what im saying

 

yeah thats what im trying to find out.... i was just watching pavlik vs hopkins and i thought about it....

maybe someone who fights or trains can answer the ??