Mayweather: "I got turned down by Shane my whole career".

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  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    No he just went after the weakest titlist available.

    And the Mosley-Gatti fight was discussed when Shane was at welter before he lost to Forrest but HBO declined Gatti as a possible opponent for Mosley and rightfully so cause Mosley would give him a brutal one sided beating.
     
  2. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    He had no choice at 140 Gatti was the only belt holder that would fight him, Cotto needed more Time Ricky wasnt ready for Floyd, I can understand that.....
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well he did try to make a Hatton fight as his first fight at the weight. A Tyszu couldnt be made with both being signed to different networks Gatti was a big PPV fight both on the same network.

    Mayweather ducked WBA titlist Harris prior to all that saying he didnt know who Harris was, Harris couldnt draw flies in fairness.

    After that he tried to make a fight with Hatton, couldnt so went after Undisputed WW Champ Judah, who want more money so Floyd fought Mitchell while Judah went after Baldomir. When Judah lost Floyd tried to make fights with Margarito and Hatton, neither wanted it so he fought Judah. Then he wanted Mosley who wouldnt face him, then he played Spinks and Baldomir off against each other and picked Undisputed champ Baldomir while turning down a multi-fight offer from Arrum which included the Margarito fight, this wasnt a no strings offer. He then went after the 2 biggest money fights in the sport - Delahoya and Hatton.

    The Marquez fight was poor, but if only a tune up and a precursor to big fights its acceptable. Hes just ducked a January date with Mosley, maybe because Pacquiao represents more money but why not fight both? If he fights Pac in Feb-April I'm not too bothered about avoiding Mosley but I would prefer to see the Mosley fight personally
     
  4. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have no issue with a Mayweather-Mosley bout. None. Shane didn't exactly endear himself to the cause with that uncharacteristic display after the Marquez bout, but maybe the whole thing was a publicity stunt, planned to hype a potential bout with Mayweather. I mean seriously, what the hell was Hops doing jawing at Floyd? :lol:

    I think the fight PBF wants is Pacquiao. He wants #1 status back and that's how he gets it. That was part of the longer term vision when he signed for Marquez (who gave Pacman all he could handle in both of their bouts). It is also a much bigger PPV event than a fight with Mosley. "The Man" at present is Pacman. That shine on Mosley is very recent, if you examine the facts. Before the Margo fight he was deemed "old" and "washed up". Well, Mayweather isn't Margarito and Mosley would not enjoy the same success. Not even close.

    Let's be clear. I would welcome a Mosley fight. Who wouldn't? But who am I to say that Mayweather is "afraid" of Shane? I very much doubt that. And it gets a little tiresome hearing about how Mayweather makes his money beating smaller men. Just how many times has that really happened in 40 pro bouts? Once? Hatton routinely weighed in the mid 150's at the bell for his bouts at 140. Was he really smaller than Floyd? That leaves JMM. I don't recall any PBF critic going on and on about how Castillo outweighed Floyd by 10 pounds, at the bell, for both their fights. How much bigger was Hoya?
     
  5. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you see it as a competitive bout? Did Mayweather have his way in every round? Did you see a 59% vs 12% connect discrepancy? Yes, he toyed with JMM. I am no Marquez hater either. Always had lots of respect for him and still consider him easy Top 5 P4p in the world. I was surprised at how one-sided the bout was.
     
  6. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    The Floyd boys are not in favor of the fight not before Pac vs Cotto I dont see the problem I think it will help boxing if it happend that way.
    Your right Floyd is not afraid of Shane, however fighting Shane is a huge risk with a mega payday lurking, and thats the problem, Floyd is not confident enough in himself to take this fight before fighting the winner of that fight, and to me that pretty much spells it out, no he doesnt fear shane, but he does fear ****ing up a big Payday if Shane shows up the way he did his last time out.
     
  7. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now you're talking. And it's easy to say Shane would have brutalised Gatti, but just how good did Mosley look against a washed up Mayorga just one bout prior to the Cotto loss? Nice to get the late KO, but he did not look very good against a brawler who's best days were behind him.
     
  8. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Sorry but tons of fights are that one sided, he did not Toy with him, I dis agree with you here on this one, and its not a hate thing neither.

    Floyd didnt knock him out when he could have, its just that Floyd has the DNA of a woman...
     
  9. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Mayorga would make for a tuff fight with anybody, its hard to look good against a guy who comes in that wild, and if you know boxing you would have to agree.

    There is a reason why Shane didnt look as good as Trinidad and De La Hoya did, and that reason is Mayorga learned that he better respect these top tier fighters and not just walk in and allow them to hit him with their best shot.

    So in this fight with Mosley you saw Mayorga fighting a totally different style he was boxing and moving, Shane more than likely had prepaired for the wild Mayorga who never showed up, so it is not all that shocking that it took him rounds to get the work done but at the end of the day he got it done and he won by knock out....

    When is the last time Mayweather stopped a full fledged welter weight?
     
  10. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't fault a fighter for weighing options and maximising returns. Mosley is a real threat because of his size, speed, and toughness. Chances are he loses a clean decision to Floyd, but he has the tools to do damage. If he lands some big shots he can take Mayweather out. Whether Mayweather sees it that way or not isn't for me to know or say. Mayweather is hardly the only fighter in the world who assesses risk and reward. And you sure can't lay blame if he and Pac sign to fight in the new year. That is the single biggest fight to be made in boxing (Cotto willing, of course). If that's PBF's focus then I am ok with it as well. Ditto for a Mosley fight should it get inked.
     
  11. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd bet a week's wages that Mayweather would dummy Mayorga. It would be comical.

    Who says a small WW like Floyd (max 150 at the bell?) has to stop all his opponents? Remember, he's coming up from a significant portion of his career at 130/135. He is not a big man at 147. And he has fragile hands. By nature he is a counter puncher - looking for the home run only if it is cleanly presented. He is first and foremost a stylist, not a KO specialist like Pacman.
     
  12. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Of course he would now that Mayorga is done I wouldnt be surprised if he fought Mayorga to be honest.
     
  13. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't expect to be taken seriously by making comments like this. Sorry, it doesn't fly. He's risked his life and health in the ring how many times since what, the age of 6 or so? Try again. I don't know of too many women who would step into a ring with JMM, and then pursue a bout with Pacquiao. :lol:

    Mayweather's performance against JMM looked like a sparring session and not a terribly tough one at that. What people have trouble fathoming is that he is good enough to toy with a fighter of Marquez's calibre. Watch the fight again.
     
  14. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whaaat !?! If I remember correctly Hatton was the undisputed champion at 140 and Cotto was the WBO champ at 140, nether guy wanted anything to do with floyd.
     
  15. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    Trust me, Mayorga was already well done by the time Shane fought him.