Miguel Cotto ending Pacmans career...

I don't understand your thread. Cotto is a great fighter, but he did not fight harder when he saw his own blood against Clottey, he got on his bike and boxed. Pacquiao does not make fighters drop in weight all the time, he made Oscar come down to 147 from 154, at the same time as he was jumping to 147 from 135, so he made a bigger change in weight than Oscar did.

He is making Miguel come down because Pac is not a welterweight, he is trying to limit Miguel's rehydration weight and make it closer to a level playing field - I say closer to a level playing field because it can never be level, Cotto is simply a much bigger man.

**** thread. Pacquiao will win by stoppage in the mid-late rounds. He is too fast and hits too hard.

 

marc .....marc......marc....you must be on drugs.....there aint nothing going to be easy about this fight...!

 

i agree. judging jmm by the floyd fight is just as dumb since it is obvious that was another older, slower, smaller, first time welter fighting floyd.

 

I agree 100% cotto is not a quiter...!

 

Lol...PAC has only one fight at a catch weight homie. And it hasn't even happened yet. The cotto fight. He faught DLH at WW b/c PAC was the smaller man having to move up TWO weight classes to meet the bigger ma in DLH. He faught Hatton at his division, took his title and fighting Cotto now one pound south of where he met Josh a few months ago.

Be easy bro....you don't have to question the hype b/c it's been proven and earned by what PAC has done' Just thinking about fighting Cotto proves PAC is a damn beast b/c NO ONE thought the match was possible 3 yrs ago. THey aren't trying to gain an advantage.....just even the playing field.

It would be an ADVANTAGE if PAC made Cotto fight at 140 where that was PAC division....>PAC is moving up in weight to face Cotto who is already at an advantage being the bigger man. Everyone has an opinion....if you don't thik PAC is #1 P4P so be it....but there are always some bull**** opinions with baseless criteria for why people have absurd thoughts. The one thing I will say....it's good you say he won't be weight drained b/c you can't come back and say that's why PAC won....should PAC win.

 

:good Nice post!

 

The fight against DLH was his first fight at a catchweight. His fight against Cotto will be his second.

 

The fight against DLH was a legit WELTERWEIGHT fight. It's maybe not the
preferred weight class for either of them but that does not make it a catch
weight. A catch weight is a fight at a weight limit that is not one of the
recognized weight classes.

Therefor the Cotto fight will be Pacs first fight at a catchweight.

 

So what you are saying basically is that if Pac had fought DLH

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(which is the limit of the WW division), lets say for example at a 147 1/4 Lbs, then the fight would have been considered a catchweight fight???? is that what you are saying????

 

Catchweight fights are fights whose agreed weight limit does not correspond to any of the established weight divisions' limit...

For example, 144 is a catchweight, 145 is a catchweight, 146 is a catchweight but 147 is not...
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Primadonna,
Just think your $1000 bet on Cotto can make you $1900 :hey

It's such a sure thing you need to mortgage your house and bet it all on COTTO "ala ricky hatton"

 

You guys are funny.....

Let me try this again...

Pac would have fought DLH at any weight ranging from 147-1/4 and up to 153-3/4 and that would have been considered a catchweight fight (this was DLHs weight division -Jr Middle)... he would have fought also DLH at a weight of 146-3/4 (which is the WW division-not DLHs division) and that would have been considered a catchweight fight as well, but because Pac fought DLH at 147 (which was the weight limit stipulated in the contract), wich matches the weight limit of the WW division then it is not considered a catchweight fight?????

You gotta be kidding. :yep

 

this thread would be classic post nov. 14, specially IF pac KOes cotto. :yep

 

Look guys, the TS actually has a point.

I myself do not think of this as an easy fight.

Cotto has power, skill and he has displayed speed.


But questioning the merit of Pac being a top fighter in the world is absurd.

He has fought the most relevant names at 126 and 130 during that time. Being Morales, Barrera and Marquez.

He has made a championship career at 122, held titles at 112 and 135 which seemed like pitstops for bigger things.

And he had just stopped Oscar and Hatton when everyone thought would be his toughest fight at that point.

 

PAC-Hoya was a standard welterweight fight (maximum weigh in weight of 147 lbs)...

In fact Hoya weigh-in only at 145 lbs in that fight and PAC weigh-in further lower at 142 lbs. It's not a catchweight fight since they agreed beforehand that they can weigh-in at a maximum of 147 lbs. which corresponds to the welterweight division weight limit hence it's a welterweight fight...

If for example they agreed before the fight that they can only have a max weigh-in limit of 145 lbs. then that fight is considered a catchweight fight at 145 lbs.
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