Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

Vitali has a strong shot to beat Holmes...He has too many versions of the right hand and he shakes Larrys world...Only way I see Larry winning is on a cut (thumb Punch) but to beat Vitali you have to hit him and Larry would have to get hit to get him....I think Vitali would be another of the many fighters Larry avoids

 

Holmes would dominate Vitali with his jab and his speed. This bit about Holmes eating right hands is over stated. In his prime he rarely got hit. In addition, Vitali is no one shot bomber. Larry would pummel Vitali like he did LeRoy Jones and win a huge , one sided decision or by stopage on a cut. Different class of fighter here.

 

Leroy Jones.

 

And Tyson like Leon Spinks

 

Funniest thing is i just watched the end of Holmes - Jones last week, Jones was so fukking gassed it was hilarious.

 

This is what I have been saying for years. Louis is vulnerable to good boxers. You won't get any real debates on that.

What I have seen at times is some comparing oafish boxers like Carnera or Baer ( Fighters Louis beat ) to Klitschko. Neither Carnera nor Baer were in Vitali's class in terms of defense, ring generalship, foot movement, offensive accuracy, etc...

One key point that some seem to forcefully ignore is great champs often have struggled with mediocre title opponents, yet Vitali has dominated all of his mediocre opponents.

 

You'll get plenty i reckon. Louis brought his own prerequisites to the table that made him in turn dangerous to boxers.

The guy has what, 3 losses in 69 fights. Two of these he was way over the hill. The other he was still mastering technique and gained some degree of revenge.

So, 3 losses, one to a brawler and over the hill, one over the hill and not to a pure boxer and the other while still learning, and again not to a pure boxer.

People go on about Conn yet Louis won the fight via KO last time i looked.

 

Chrissy, you know where you can stick your icon.

JT, your a grown up so I'll laugh with you. That aside, who wasn't vulnerable to good boxers ? In additon, the Jones analogy was simply stated to show how Holmes had zero problems dealing with tall guys. Look at Roy Williams and Cooney as well.

 

No worries mate, i think the point was just how far below Klit Jones actually is, they aren't even comparable. I'm anything but a big fan of the Klit's but they are sure better than anyone Larry beat.

 

Pure rubbish. My very first post in this thread was saying that I can't pick because I can see an argument for either guy.

I was then called a nut hugger, etc. & I responded to a poster who said Klitschko would go back to making gay pictures or some **** like that. That's beyond pale & that ******* would never say that **** to either brother's face.

Maybe you've seen some of my posts, especially those regarding that shemale Swann the tranny. She said derogatory **** to just about everyone including the Klitschkos and I called her on it. Sue me. If he/she's going to dish it out he/she's going to take it too. I don't care if you like it or not.

This is a free world & ESB let's anyone post anywhere within reason & they don't have a problem with it so **** off if you do. You don't own the Classic forum & I'll continue to put you in your place & call you on **** I don't agree with. Got it?

Coincidently Marciano's era was weaker than today's HW division. How'd you like them apples?

 

Granny Smith man, Granny Smith

 

That's a good argument but the sheer amount of title defenses & the inside hand speed & jab of Louis are awesome. The shortest, picture-perfect right cross inside was his best punch but he could mix in combos with it too.

Like I said, very tough fight to call. I agree that Louis did struggle with the better boxers but he usually KO'd them eventually. He avenged the loss to Schmeling twice in devastating fashion.

 

Twice?

Louis only lost 3 times, and none to pure boxers. Record wise he did perfectly well vs them.

 

Yeah, because Vitali & LeRoy Jones fight exactly the same way. :-(