dwyer thinks valuev will beat haye

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  1. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's got some valid points but still... :think

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  2. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, very reasonable thinking. However, I am not convinced that Haye's lack of defence will be fully exploited by Valuev. Valuev simply isn't strong enough or active enough to make Haye pay for his mistakes. On the other hand, since height will be such an obvious factor coming in, I believe Haye will adjust his offensive tactics and do more than just his usual head hunting. Look for more body shots and counter punching from Haye in this fight. As much as I despise DH, I still have this fight going his way via UD.
     
  4. Sarah

    Sarah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Valuev beats Haye. Mormeck almost walked down and knocked the **** out Haye people foget this.

    They also forget Haye ain't no boxer. He's a fast slugger. Show me he technical work and I'll show you smartie rainbow.
     
  5. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No no no no no and no holyfield is a relic and shadow of his former self.

    Haye will KO Valuev guarantee it.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I have said from the beginning that Valuev is going to knock out Haye in a fight that up until that point Haye is easily winning.

    Haye has **** stamina and I don't even need to go into how bad his fragile Glass Jaw is.
     
  7. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    don't know about a KO , but personally i'd predict haye by UD
     
  8. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He makes some good points, I think people are underrating Valuev in the run up to this fight, if you can still come out on top by going with Valuev to win, Haye to win by knockout then that seems a good idea as I doubt he takes a decision, especially in Germany.

    He was wrong about one thing, Chagaev was down in his fight against Wladimir Klitschko, in the second round.
     
  9. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    penut head, in all fairness hes never been Ko'd, he was out of gas against Thompson, and yeah hes been down a few times, but he got back up.
     
  10. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Uhmmm. He got kayoed. Whatever the excuse, it went on his record as a kayoed. Also, he was badly hurt and out on his feet in that fight. It was basically a replay of Wlad vs. Brewster I.
     
  11. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That sounds about right. Valeuv by KO as Haye has a case of the nerves and tires quickly, then is KOed.
     
  12. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please tell me how valuev beats haye? he can't box for ****
     
  13. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    You guys gota realize that Dwyer makes the prediction on regards to the odds too.

    Valuev is probably the best livedog match-up this year here due to several reasons Dwyer says.

    He basically says it's better to put money on Valuev and he's right.
     
  14. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    I can see Valuev landing a monster right hand on Haye like Barrett. Unlikely but I can see it happening and wouldn't be too shocked.

    Haye's going to win this though. I have the feeling that Haye is going to have a lot of success at HW against SHW's due to styles. He'd struggle more with a pressure fighter that weighs 200 like Frago than a typical plodding HW who Haye can counter silly. Haye-Valuev is seriously going to look like The Matrix.
     
  15. G.A.V.

    G.A.V. Guest

    The fight you need to watch Haye and worry about is not the Thompson fight at all, but Mock. And he hasn't been overly impressive in his last three, he has power, but as Dwyer says, he tends to headhunt and throw too much in his punch, you saw it when he went for Barrett and he countered him putting him on his ass and he was visibly stunned after that.

    Even if Haye does get past Valuev, I fear that's the furthest he'll get, there's only so much faith you can put into someone's power.