Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Louis's reach wasn't 74" it was 76".

    Every contemporary source lists it as 76".
     
  2. McGrain

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    What is your source for the Louis reach of 74"?
     
  3. janitor

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    This coming from a man who has not seen any of Louis's prime fights and dosn't understand why he would need to to make a valid prediction.
     
  4. godking

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    What version of Joe Louis was lighting fast ?.

    Fast hands yes fast feet no.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jesus. Do you people have jobs? This thread has taken about twenty turns since I last looked. Go outside, breathe some fresh air, talk to a girl.
     
  6. janitor

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    Louis was quite nimble on his feet in the Baer fight and the Levinsky fight.

    He didn't often use footwork but he could if he needed to.
     
  7. fists of fury

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    Need you really ask? :hey
     
  8. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They didn't call him the "shuffler" for nothing. He was definitely slow of foot.
     
  9. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    must admit louis does seem to shuffle at times when going forward
     
  10. fists of fury

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    And yet, when he was being trained briefly by Holman Williams, he was almost what you could call a 'cutie.'
    That shuffle was totally deliberate.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Deliberate and perfect and one of the reasons Louis carried fight-saving power so late into fights. Perfect footwork for his style.
     
  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Feeding Vitali Klitschko to a prime Joe Louis would be like giving a huge slab of raw meat to a tiger. Big, slow of foot guys were exactly what Joe loved to fight. If you were trying to find a perfect, name opponent for Joe to beat up on, Vitali would surely be on the short list. How long Vitali lasted would be a simple measure of how much pain he could withstand...in my opinion, of course.
     
  13. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    louis to me shuffles going forward quite a bit ,but not that much when going backward .i have always thought his shuffling although going forward a defensive and attacking stratagy in one .he makes his opponent
    miss by small margins and stays in range to throw back with venom

    does this sound like bollocks

    i am listening to some music so am half here:D

    i voted louis to win (cuts vitali up)
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No your observations are perfectly astute.

    Look more closley and you will see that Louis often pulls back imidiately before he finishes his oponent off. He liked to draw his oponents into coming forward so that he could nail them coming in and often did this by stepping slightly out of range. He was also not above holding back with the heavy artilery to make his oponent complacent.

    In this respect Louis worked a bit like a venus fly trap.
     
  15. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so his style would negate any reach advantage his opponent might have and could be a nightmare for vitali