Roy Jones....is it too late to solidify his legacy?

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  1. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy Jones is the best fighter I have seen with my own two eyes. He is Michael Jordan with boxing gloves on.....multiple championships, good fundamentals, great natural ability, and just did the unbeleievable in the ring. He is trying to salvage his place among the Pep's, Leonard's and Robinson's.....people say his resume isnt strong enough to warrant a top 10 placing all-time at this point, but on talent alone he is on another level. If he defeats danny green or Bernard Hopkins I would give him a spot in the top 10 pound for pound for sure......Longevity has alot to do with rankings as well and it must be said Jones was the best in the world for 15 years, had a dark last few years and is fighting his way back. Champions show there hearts after they lose, and Jones has been hungry and proving he is willing to take risks....
     
  2. Scar

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    His legacy is done with, what he's doing more is just extra which he really doesn't need to do. It's like Leonard's fights with Camacho and Norris, those fights weren't there for him to add "legacy", his legacy is done with and this is the addiction of fighting taking over.

    If you can't see that his legacy is done with then you must have issues.
     
  3. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Comprehensively being outboxed by Calzaghe is enough of a nail in his coffin. You can't even stick a fork in Jones anymore, he's been on the BBQ so long that he's been overcooked to a point that it's irretrievable.
     
  4. Scar

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    Jones has been shot for nearly 5 years, it took Calzaghe 5 years for both him and his father to know it's safe enough to ask for that fight knowing these guys are 40+, past it and safe enough for them. In their primes Calzaghe claimed his WBOgus was too precious for him to run after them, they should come to him yet when they're 40+ and he has endless fights to watch and make sure they're shot to death he carried his lineal title all the way to the US.

    Calzaghe's claim to fame = two fights. Lacy and Kessler. Even those two fights weren't going to happen till these guys LITERALLY BEGGED to make it and packed THEIR MAJOR BELTS, WBOgus isn't exactly as major as you think, and took it to England. Otherwise Calzaghe would still be remembered as a WBOgus title holder without even CONSIDERING unification for a long list of laughable pathetic excuses only the bartenders he fought would justify.
     
  5. Slacker

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    Roy should have stopped fighting after beating Ruiz. He hasn't proved anything since then, and he has lost to guys he would have taken apart in his prime.

    He is only tarnishing his legacy by becoming the cliche "I can still do this" Boxer who doesn't know when to quit.

    He should be thinking about a career behind the mic or promoting, or both.
     
  6. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    :good Calzaghe's win over Jones shouldn't even be in his top 10 wins imho.
     
  7. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    This is not quite accurate. Calzaghe was the one who was the number 1 in the SMW division when the Lacy and Kessler fights happened, regardless of titles held. Calzaghe took a massive pay cut to get Lacy in the ring. That's why Lacy is wearing diamond earings these days.

    I take the point you're trying to make (although woefully off-topic) but your inaccurate ramblings make it hard for me to be on your side.
     
  8. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, he waited to both were losing half a decade past prime until he had the balls to really show interesdt in fighting them. Calzaghe gets no credit IMO for wins over Hopkins and Jones. Calzaghe best wins were over Lacy, and Kessler
     
  9. pngo

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    His win over BHOP was still good. BHOP wasn't completely gone like Jones, he still can compete at the elite.
     
  10. cubex

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    His legacy is already sealed.
     
  11. scharters

    scharters Member Full Member

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    how can you ever count roy jones out. im not giving up on him yet
     
  12. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jones' legacy is more then solidified, can you name anyone else who has accomplished what he did?

    At this point theres nothing he can do he is old and shot, win the the IBO title and maybe defend it a few times thats really all he can do now.
     
  13. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy Jones has about as much chance at advancing his legacy as the pope earning a medal on the uneven parallel bars.
     
  14. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    1. It's common knowledge that Hopkins pulled out of a fight with Calzaghe more than half a decade ago after agreeing to the deal.
    2. Bernard Hopkins loses at Middleweight and decides to skip Super Middleweight to campaign at about 170-172lbs a weight division higher.
    3. Bernard Hopkins called out Joe Calzaghe after beating Winky Wright in 2007. Note the Freudian slip from Bhop:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYwiYn8BzdU[/ame]

    4. Joe Calzaghe agrees to the fight and it happens early 2008 in Hopkins backyard.

    I don't see what Calzaghe has done wrong with the Hopkins situation.
     
  15. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    All good points. :thumbsup