Froch vs Dirrell - I hope all of you so called boxing experts get shut the %u@k up

Mentioning Mayweather in some sort of backwards logical attempt of styles justifying a Dirrell win shows how little you understand (and is a big slap in the face to Mayweather). You (and the OP) have totally confused skill with athleticism. Dirrell isn't particularly skilled, he has unsound fundamentals (poor guard, poor footwork, applies defensive manoeuvres sporadically), however so far he has been able to more than get away with that by relying solely on his handspeed and athleticism.

The big difference between Mayweather and Dirrell in your outworld attempt at justifying a stylistic superiority is that Mayweather is a brilliant technical boxer as well as incredibly athletic.

 

Didn't say he was 'garbage'. Just said I don't see the attributes everyone else has claimed he has. If he shows these then obviously he's a talent. See, that's called objectivity :good ****

wasn't posting here around the time of Hatton-Floyd.

 

Never said Dirrell = Mayweather however it would be good for you to know that both appreciate the idea of boxing as a sweet science. :bbb

PS: Mayweather Jr, the man himself, has seen the talent in Dirrell and told him this personally:hi:

 

well Froch is apparently slow and he's in the tournament????

 

His footwork is technically very poor. He makes up for this however by having naturally good foot speed and athleticism, which is particularly easy to do against inadequate opponents. He does several things poorly, if he didn't, he would probably be heading on his way to the Hall of Fame, plenty of the guys in the tournament do things poorly, some of which you have stated, so thats hypocritical and flawed logic.

Tell me what major flaws Mayweather has? He is arguably a top five all time defensive fighter, can throw any punch in the book in technically sound, and awkward unorthodox fashion if he wants to (as he is both incredibly skilled and incredibly athletic), has great conditioning, good punch resistance, excellent footwork. His only flaw is his limited punch output (by choice, not physical limitations) which was not a flaw in his prime, and it has hardly proved to be a flaw considering it has always been enough.

I aint digging no hole, you are by no means looking at the big picture, just the things you want to see.

 

Dirrel's footwork is not very good. He moves fast but that's not the definition of a good footwork. Boxers who possess a good footwork move just enough to be out of reach and just enough to hit the other. All with timing and defensive considerations. Their feet are well positioned in order to get the maximum power. Dirrel is a great athlete, like Jermaine Taylor. Both don't have the best footwork.

 

Workrate is the one and only flaw you could possibly name and its hardly a flaw at all, considering he has never failed to win a fight and punches with an unheard of efficiency, and at his peak and ideal weight it was a non-existent problem. Not fighting the best out there has nothing to do with flaws in the ring, and a 154 pound Oscar isn't exactly a feather duster to a guy who started at 130 pounds.

Implying there is some sort of similarity in anyway of the flaws held by an untested prospect with several outstanding deficiencies and one of the more complete fighters of all time is beyond stupid.

 

I'm no boxing expert but a seasoned fan. This fight, from where I sit, and with all that I've read, and the little I've seen (youtube) and heard from Direll is a toss up. I respect and to a certain extent am swayed by posts on the forum over the past few weeks highlighting Direll's abilities vs his lack of world class experience; I'm also impressed by his confident if not, boardering on the rude, tirades towards Froch.


First and foremost in boxing ability is key; you can't hurt what you can't hit. The fact that Direll's been hit and nearly KO'd by Oganov and Hanshaw is what it is - the key thing to note is that he was nearly knocked out and prevailed.

What intrigues me about this fight is you have a tough, capable, hungary but recent world champion in Froch, coming up against a determined, skilful, hungary and capable opponent in Dirrell. This presents, for me, the best that boxing match-ups have to offer as both fighters possess, at least on paper, attributes that cancel each other out.

Second, for anyone here like myself who has followed Froch's career, not too many fights ago, by his own admission, his performances were becoming stale. He put this right by calling out and seeking meaningful fights that would personally challange himself. His preference, to go out on his shield rather than turn up unmotivated against opponents he's meant to beat. Fast forward two hard fought fights later and he's the reigning WBC champ - and KUDOS to him.

My point - Direll has entered a tournament that pits him against some of the best if not the best super middle weight fighters in the business. The difference is he's now at the same position Froch was two fights ago, but with all the motivational and monetary enducements required to inspire transition to the next level.

This fight, therefore, is by no means as cut and dry for either fighter as some of you would have us believe.

Do you remember?

Toney vs Nunn
Honeyghan vs Curry
Barkley vs Hearns
Baldimor vs Judah
Hatton vs Tyszo
Douglas vs Tyson
Mosely vs Margarito
Prescot vs Khan


Bottom line - punches hurt and **** stinks!! May the best man win.

 

BUt its all a matter of opinion on how we think this fight will go .... come sunday morning we will all have another opinion im sure ! such as BUte should have be in the Super Six instead of Dirrell who was totally outclassed on the night !

 

Pascal's better than Dirrell. Froch beat Pascal. End of discussion.

 

:good Pascal and Taylor LOOK to be better IMO. Just listened to "On the Ropes" interview with Froch and he sounds very very confident. Was a very good extended interview and Froch was allowed to go into a lot of detail about the whole Super Six, his amateur experience, why he thinks he'll win, the Taylor fight and other subjects. Best Froch interview I've heard and I highly recommend it