Ezzard Charles once said

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I believe you I'm just curious.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    No worries, i know you'd be keen to add it to your Walcott files as it is a pretty big notch in the belt.
     
  3. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well more than his due, actually.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    And here she be......

    Big Book of Boxing September 1981

    "The Night Jersey Joe Shocked the World"

    Just one thing to remember i guess, he hadn't actually fought Marciano at this time so he's excluded obviously.

    So apologies for my first post :patsch

    :good
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Abe simon said the same thing for whatever that is worth.
     
  6. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    What I like about this statement is that its not the typical "the fighter that I beat hits much harder than the fighter that beat me" bull****.
     
  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    seeing Walcott - Marciano 1 only yesterday , and walcott's muscularity , i have to agree , i think he had the best physique of these 4.
    louis is overrated.
    marciano was the best of these 4 both p4p and h2h DESPITE having no arms . that is what makes him p4p so good.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yes but did he take the same precise and accurate countershots that Jersey Joe dished out.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was not a poor finisher, he was a couinter puncher and he was a defensive first fighter, he dropped his opponents with well timed and accurate power shots...when Marciano got right up on solid legs, Joe went at him but Rocky started trading.. He felt he was outboxing Louis in the first fight hand him down 2 times so he stayed with his plan...Joe went down but Joe was always dangerous....Walcott got out of his style and got agressive vs Joe after dropping him in fight 2 and walked into a wirlwind....JJW was a very hard one punch pinpoint counter puncher but was a counter puncher and mover...he timed his punches well. as far as your remark of him being a cruiser...Walcott was a real heavyweight counterpuncher and he hit much harder than Ali, Holmes,Jimmy Young,Patterson,Eddie Chambers, Chris Byrd, and he could move as well as all of them think about that....JJW was also extremly ripped in these days of weight training and enhanced muscular growth, he would be muscle bulkier Today but he would not need to be.
     
  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    On another note, how good was the left hook Walcott hit Rocky with early in their 1st fight? Seemed pretty similar. Was it the added wear and tear of the fight that caused Charles to go down or was Marciano's chin THAT good?
     
  11. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably a bit of both. Marciano wasn't a fast starter, and got caught very hard very early with a perfectly timed shot. Charles got nailed perfectly with one of the best left uppercuts (or hook, a bit of both) that I've ever seen and he got KO'd.
     
  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Walcott was known as a big puncher, by his opponents and contemporaries.
    He looks like he throws every shot with power on film too. He's definitely a banger.

    He wasn't a KO artist, he beat guys up on points a lot. Though of course his 3rd fight with Charles is one of the greatest KOs of all-time.
     
  13. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a great punch but as said above, Marciano wasn't a fast starter and he was also a bit stunned from Walcott's early onslaught.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFX0F0qUM-Q[/ame]

    Charles never saw the punch coming.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yeah, that changes things up a bit.

    Jersey Joe walked away with his arms up thinking he knocked Marciano out according to Bert Sugar. It does make some sense as Walcott seemed away and befuddled that Marciano got up and was stay around after that big punch.

    He didn't, and it was such a short punch. And that's where all the power comes from. I don't think Marciano saw the punch, either, though.
     
  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he was in better position to take that punch though, unlike Charles who was throwing a jab when the perfect counter hook/uppercut caught him flush on the chin.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2-5fq0sGMs[/ame]

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    Don't think Walcott ever walked away thinking he had knocked him out so that might count as yet another Bert Sugar myth. He seemed to take a long look at Rocky after downing him.

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