Just rewatched Cotto-Margarito

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  1. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    after rewatching mosley margarito, mosley had such a great game-plan opposed to cottos, i dont know why cotto didnt push forward and go to the body like shane did.(hes jus as strong physically) That looked like the key to beat margarito, push him back(you can see how frustrated he was due to this) and throw him off his rythm, get at his body when he lunges forward wildy, jus in the first round mosley landed at least 2 huge body punches that stung marg pretty bad..great job by mosley
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    his chin and stamina in that fight were unbelievable.
     
  3. Drunkenboxer

    Drunkenboxer Least Eligible Bachelor Full Member

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    Oh and you do? Quit being righteous. If your avatar's anything to judge by you're about as tough as skidmarks on a bog bowl.
     
  4. Hyland

    Hyland Pimp C's Father Full Member

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    Margarito's punches were sloppy, slow and loopy....they inflicted more damage than you normally expect. It takes common sense to know this and that Margo cheated..

    If Margo was so "strong" he would of knocked out Cotto flat out cold. But his sloppy punching with no direction could find that clean shot.

    Cotto took a knee
    From getting hammered from you know what.
     
  5. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I run sub three hour marathons, boxed for 8 years as an amateur at state level and played college ball.

    I'm tough enough to know the difference between someone who despite having the talent, doesn't have the heart (Taylor) and who despite having talent and heart, cannot overcome adversity (Cotto)
     
  6. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that last round is one of the most exciting rounds the past few years....I show that to people who dont even like boxing and they get excited...
     
  7. masterold

    masterold Active Member Full Member

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    All I have to say is it was a great fight, one of my favourites. Cotto was boxing great rounds 1-6, remember at the end of one of the rounds when he was avoiding punches like Sweet Pea lol...Then Marg hurt him bad in the 7th and didn't let off till Cotto couldn't take anymore...I think I had it even going into the 11th, rounds 1,3,4,5 and 6 to Cotto 2,7,8,9,10 to Marg.

    As far as I'm concerned Marg may have used plaster in this fight but without evidence no one should say that he did.
     
  8. Drunkenboxer

    Drunkenboxer Least Eligible Bachelor Full Member

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    If anything that makes me respect your comment even less. Screw the college ball and marathons. Do you wanna tell me that you've ever been in there with someone as vicious as Margarito (Cheating aside, he's still a scary SOB) for the amount of time Cotto did and had to overcome anything close? This is professional boxing, the guys brain is on the line, and for the record I think Margarito's gloves were stuffed from the amount of superficial damage to Cottos face.

    I am staunchly against all this tired archaic bull****, this old-fart attitude that will ridicule an honest, tough guy like Cotto, and see another honest guy like Levander Johnson die in the ring. His kids don't have a dad anymore, but he did enough to impress sanctimonious mother****ers like you, right? I should hope so. I'd expect better from a boxer. Take your hand off your balls.
     
  9. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    No, I've not been in the ring with a championship level boxer, I did fight someone who went to the olympics but regardless, that doesn't matter.

    Cotto lost the fight through being disheartened by the fact that he seemingly could not hurt Margarito. He landed some beautiful shots and was astounded that Margarito kept coming. I don't even think it was the shots that landed on Cotto that put him away, it was the fact that Cotto did not believe he could hurt Margarito and was more and more hesitant pulling the triggers.

    As for Cotto being a tough guy? He's always struggled with adversity, this was just the first time the guy had the ability to take advantage of it. Some would argue (quite well, I might add) that he was VERY lucky to get out of the Clottey fight with anything better than a draw, same situation.
     
  10. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    any1 who says Marg "didn't cheat" is a damn idiot......

    so he just decided to load up for Shane, a fighter who he was a 4 to 1 favorite to beat, and who was previously beaten by Cotto, but not Cotto?

    speaking logically, which i know most ESB posters dont really understand, that makes no ****in sense....

    at best the only defense Marg has would be "nobody knows for a fact that he cheated", so you blockheads should trying sticking to that one, cuzz saying he "didn't cheat" is just ****in stupid

    regardless of if Marg showed plenty of chin and stamina, it means nothing if you're not fighting on an even playing field, which he clearly wasn't if his gloves were indeed loaded...


    and any1 saying Cotto has no heart, let me see you fight a bigger, tougher, stronger guy with load gloves, and we'll see how many rounds you last as well...
     
  11. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    there was plaster in the mans gloves...u can hear cheatos corner asking him if he felt the power of the punches yet and to continue throwing as he will feel his power....cotto's face said it all...very similar to restos face....u think that he would just do it for mosley when everyone thought mosley was done as a fighter...why would u need to cheat beating a so called shot fighter in mosley and then he got bagged and got exposed as the fraud he is
     
  12. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vegas supervises the wrapping of gloves.

    I've FOUGHT in Vegas, so let me tell you firsthand, it would be impossible to load gloves in that state. The rep walks in with your materials, and watches your trainer have at it. Margarito did not train for Mosley, as is well known, realized at the weigh in that this was a terrible idea, and tried to do something stupid, is my theory.

    But as much as I hate that cheating scum, you can't get away with that **** in Vegas. Take it from a guy whose had to wrap his hands in 9 states. Vegas does it right. California does not.
     
  13. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    norhing is impossible when u have money at stakes....your fights were petty not multi million like cotto vs marg....you see everyone in csac quitting from taking bribes right...and he did train for marg cuz marg lost the needed weight and looked in good cond. om fight night...just lost his weapon and couldnt do **** about it...he went from throwing 100+ punches to almost 40 per against mosley...no wraps equal no power which equals less punch output....vegas is the betting capital in the world and betting on marg won ppl alot of money
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Petty is alittle, untrue, but, not for multi million dollars.

    But here is what is true: In this country somebody is innocent until proven guilty, and all the evidence that matters, not counting objective analysis like Cotto's face, is that loading gloves while the NSAC is supervising you is impossible. CSAC is a corrupt, backwards body, but Nevada's is the most scrutenized on the face of the Earth. Too many major sporting events, and too much high profile gambling goes on in Vegas for the commission to survive ANY evidence of corruption.

    California is where Richardson prevented the loading. Vegas, which is in Nevada, under the NSAC, not the CSAC, is where the loading did not occur.

    Margarito spent his entire camp making weight after ballooning up after his best win. He hurt himself with numerous nagging injuries that took sparring time, didn't condition himself in his usual routine, and Mosley beat the **** out of him.

    As a boxer, I'm gonna call bull**** on your less power equals less punching theory. Here's what will decrease your PC, bro: A fast, strong ATG caving your face in with his fists. Margarito fought back hard, but Mosley going forward is faster and stronger than Cotto going backward and the Mexican got blown away by strong, accurate haymakers. Fact.
     
  15. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    u still think mosley is a beast like most people one here think...mosley fought a fighter that had been in nothing but wars.....marg was there for the taking as he was shop worn....he had nothing to throw at mosley...u think nazim was in that room by accident when marg not shane was the betting favorite....money talks..so your theory about boxing in nevada holds no weight when money talks...point blank the man is a cheater.....and god knows how long he was using them...he shouldve been banned for life