Joe Fraziers defense.

Well I think it's a hook/uppercut. Definitely less compact and not as parallel as the one against Bonavena. Either way it proves my point that Frazier was more vulnerable to the hook/uppercut rather than straight punches. That up and down weave showed that.

 

That's true, but I still think Frazier was more vulnerable to the uppercut especially and hook too. Straights he seemed to avoid at much more of an ease. He definitely slipped Ali's jab very impressively. And he slipped straighter punches a lot more even though those are generally quicker more accurate punchers.

 

Frazier as a predominant left hooker was pretty good at slipping hooks too. This is one of Angelo Dundee's signature phrases, "Never hook with a left hooker, especially Joe Frazier."

I will agree with you though, the Foreman uppercut was Frazier's disaster and the fact that he wasn't close to his prime shape didn't help him in that fight.

 

Yes, you're right on that. Dundee said that, and it's a true sentiment. I wouldn't want Ali to try hooking with Frazier either.

On Ringside Dundee said, "You don't hook with a hooker and you don't date a hooker."

 

Fraziers head movement was a bit predictable. It wasnt a reaction to his opponents movements like some others, and more of a rhythmic part of his movement that was somewhat consistent everytime.

 

Agree with you lefthook31.

Frazier's head movement was predictable, moreso than Tyson, Marciano and Dempsey. What set Frazier apart is the frequency and depth of his head movement and how he followed it up with his left hook, or sometimes the right hook to the body which few give him credit for.

Only Marciano, who's head movement was not as frequent, used a deeper duck and weave motion than Frazier, which was taught to him by Goldman using the heavyweight bag in training.

Dempsey probably had the least head movement because he fought with a lower stalking crouch than Marciano, who signified the low crouch attack.