Tony Jeffries Last Night

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I thought that he smothered most of his work and looks to have gone back since his last bout. I thought the same recently about Jack Arnfield. Jack is a excellent long range fighter but at Bobby Rimmers gym they seem to have overdosed on the infighting and forgotten the stuff that made them top class amateurs.

    Groves looked a class above Jeffries last night, and against what looked to be the more talented (no mark) opponent.

    Bobby is a smashing bloke but I wonder what they're doing down there because they're has been a few so-so performances from the gym recently. Brian Rose and Jack Arnfield are seriously talented fighters, I just hope they don't fall into the mindset that putting your head down and smashing away to the body is always going to be sufficient.

    Brian in particular has one of the finest jabs i've ever seen on a domestic fighter. He's going to need it next week against Rushton who can still box with skill even if his punch resistence is on the wain.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. dan-b

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    Yup, Jeffries looked awful although I think he's a limted fighter anyway. He looked upset that his opponent didn't just fall over for him. His right hand is terrible, it falls short and he falls in with it.
     
  3. TFFP

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    His comment in the post-fight interview was revealing. He said something like 'we work on the boxing but I want Tony to go in there and get the stoppage, he likes to fight'.

    That gives you an insight as to what they focus on in the gym.
     
  4. Decy

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    Seemed to me to be a big difference talentwise Groves looked far better. I think Jeffries should fight away from Sunderland for awhile as the expectations are huge and are making him fight too aggresively really really impressed with Groves though.
     
  5. dan-b

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    Yes, I'm glad you reminded me of that. What a moronic comment from his coach.
     
  6. cotto20

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    Jeffries looked terrible last night, the fighter who he fought refused to go down off the first punch tony landed, something which jeffries didn't like!
     
  7. dan-b

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    He kept looking to the ref as well.
     
  8. brown bomber

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eEezhOScF8[/ame]

    He's not an infighter. He needs to boxing at middle distance not smashing the body like Ricky Hatton.
     
  9. brown bomber

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gPhwAqqSpM&feature=related[/ame]

    This was his last fight... look at the poise....
     
  10. TFFP

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    Yep, I think his trainer had a lot to answer for last night. It's a strange mentality to instill in your fighter against that type of opponent. Even if he goes in there 'to fight' and stops him in the first round he hasn't developed anything new because Jeffries has been all about that in his career. If he taught the right things in the gym he should have confidence the stoppage would come without explicitly encouraging it. The crowd and home town factor put even more pressure on him.
     
  11. TFFP

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    I think the main difference is that opponent was **** poor. Jeffries didn't start off too badly last night, its when the opponent hung in there, showed defence, toughness and durablity that Jeffries lost direction somehow and started falling in and getting desperate.
     
  12. brown bomber

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    I disagree... From the off he wanted to engage in a slug fest. Look at Groves in comparison, poised- sharp.... everything a young unbeaten fighter should be. The guy he fought had been stopped 7 times. Jeffries should have took his time, boxed him from the outside like in his am videos and he'd have stopped the German.
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I thought Jeffries was okay for the first few minutes, which is basically when the guy in that video fell apart because he's a tomato can. He started off with a good hard jab, he was aggressive but wasn't making the mistakes he made as the fight progressed in terms of falling to his opponents trap and getting tied up, and just winging away with no real thought.

    I think we learnt something new about Jeffries in that he's easily frustrated and lacks a more scientific approach when the stoppage is not forthcoming. No feints, no thought about picking the gaps, or creating gaps by varying his punches. Basically just no thought, and I blame his trainer for that. At no point did he seem to offer sound advice and his interview gave the game away.
     
  14. brown bomber

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    I missed the interview, what did he say? As far as I was aware the Rimmer partnership was only temporary and he'd be looking for a more suitable trainer over time. Seen him at a few shows with Brian and think they're really good pals- perhaps thats why he's staying.
     
  15. TFFP

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    That he wants Jeffries to fight, and he wants him to get stoppages.

    As for his opponent, he wasn't as awful as the stats say. I took a look at his record beforehand and knew it might not be a blowout like his others. He's been stopped earlier in his career, but not so much recently and had done rounds with good European fighters. He was obviously a survivor that had learnt a few tricks to smuggle his way through fights, they didn't take that into account at all.

    Groves was awesome, agreed. Very impressive all-round, don't think I could fault much except a few punches he took.