AA beats taylor in the 12th round and pavlik beat him in the 7th

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  1. houseman

    houseman Guest

    when arguably taylor was better than he is now,that everyone seems to think that AA would beat pavlik easily imo pavliks long punches would cause AA no end of problems
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik also fought a suspect decision according to many experts and fans in the 2nd Taylor fight. If the Jermain of the first fight was arguably better than Taylor afterwards, that makes Pavlik, barely getting the decision... what? Shot? Ill? Drunk? :lol:

    Taylor outboxed Froch and gassed. Abraham actually gassed more than Taylor and still outboxed, outfought and KOd him. In 1 fight Abraham was more impressive than Pavlik (almost getting KTFO) and Froch (10 seconds away from losing) combined.

    Taylor's jab couldn't find the target. He was instructed to double it on, just was Ikeke by Freddie Roach, but it had no effect, the guard is too good and bombs are coming back. You can't set up power punches with the jab vs. Arthur Abraham, and that's what Pavlik does. If he can't set power punches up with the jab... well, ask Bernard Hopkins what happens then...

    Pavlik gets hit by 50% (67% in the 1st JT fight) of power punches, Abraham gets hit by 15-20%. He'd KTFO Pavlik hard.
     
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    Abraham is a totally different fighter to Pavlik..most people can see that.

    Both have concussing power but Pavlik throws a great deal more punches than abraham..walks his opponenets down.
    Abraham soaks up pressure then turns to offence and puts on the gas late on..hence apart frm the miranda fight most of his KO's are late.
     
  4. Bazooka

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    I had Taylor winning going into the 12th right game plan but as always Taylor falls asleep in the last three rounds.....

    Now I dont want to start a riot in saying this, but do you think AA might be loading them gloves? it took him a very very very long time to take them gloves off last night after that knock out, and usally thats the first thing a fighter wants to do when the fight is over.
     
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    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Yeah, and JT but Pavlik on the floor, and arguabley beat him in their 2nd fight.
     
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    I would imagaine his gloves would have been thoroughly checked by taylors trainer last night. Especially with it being in Germany and with the whole Margo debate.

    I had taylor down by 2 rounds going into the last..most of his punches were hitting abrahams gloves.
     
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    Circa Skate And Destroy Full Member

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    short night for pavlik :yep
     
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    WAtch faces of both men and tell me again whose face looked more mauled? JT hit nothing but AA, arms and gloves with his jabs, while AA once in a while jabbed hard jbas straight at JT face and made Jt face swolling.

    And No AA did not load his gloves, that's what Mexican plodders does.
     
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    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    Pavlik went the full 12 with Taylor at 168

    Abraham sparked Taylor out at 168

    ???
     
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    I dont think so, I mean Pavlik doesnt exaclty move his head much, might be the same thing...who knows, to me you have to be able to box a little to get the job done with AA...

    Pavlik is a big oaky he is comming straight for you, he doesnt box much he applies pressure and bangs away, might be tailor made for Abrahams style.
     
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    With 11 seconds left gosh your really really looking to grab on to something eh?
     
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    Pavlik would walk right into Abrahams game plan..
    Take his shots then stop him late.
     
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    Doesnt matter whos face looks more mauled, I had Taylor winning, some guys in this sport seem to swell more than others do, take that into consideration....

    Not saying he did load his gloves, just saying that it was a bit odd he didnt take those gloves off until they were ready to interview him... I found that odd... not saying thats the case but its strange a fighter would leave them on for that long after the fights been stopped....

    Sorry I just dont trust Germany, they have a history over there....
     
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    Just correcting the original poster
     
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    You don't get extra credit for knocking a guy out quicker. Styles make fights. Abraham doesn't care when he knocks you out, he just does it whenever he feels like it.