Arguello-Tyszu at 140lbs - who wins and how

Heres 1 I havent seen done before. Both lost to pressure fighters (Arguello the much better pressure fighter). Both dynamite punchers. Arguello the rangier Tyszu quite possibly stronger with explosive displays of strength such as a 250lb Clean and Jerk. Both brutal body punchers, accurate, Tyszu maybe faster, Arguello technically more solid. Tyszu's power is reknowned at 140lbs, Arguello seems to still be a brutal puncher but maybe a 140lber like Tyszu takes these shots.

I think I'd go with a Arguello late KO

 

Arguello stops kosta late! he hit harder, had the better tools and was the over all better fighter. I think tyszu would be shocked at arguello's punching power and body to body strength

 

Arguello isnt technically more solid.

 

I'm not altogether certain that Arguello hit harder than a guy who was regularly destroying Light Welterweights.

As for the match-up, Alexis would have made an excellent 140lbs in my estimation. He seemed to maintain his snap, and his punching technique and ability to mix it up - body and head - never seemed to fade as he moved up in weight. Arguello is always described as someone with relatively slow hands- but this shouldn't be a problem against Tyszu - who isn't a mover, and who doesn't possess great hand speed either.

This fight is determined by who can take the better shot, and who can deliver their punches with more consistancy than the other. Alexis was more accurate, had better punching technique, proved his durability at this weight against one of the best 140 pounders to ever lace them up, and if he can rattle Pryor - I'd expect Tsyzu to be rattled or possibility stopped...late. Arguello excelled when put in front of a stationary target.

 

Can i ipick Tszyu by stoppage?

 

Sure, I just don't think Tszyu would stop Arguello, when a potentially drugged up Pryor just barely managed it himself. Pryor hit very hard, and had punchstats existed back then, I'm willing to bet Pryor threw close to 100 shots a round and that he landed about 50% of his overall power shots.

Alexis was tough as hell.

 

Nar i'm just bored, i do think it's possible though, but like you say Alexis bangs hard even at this weight and with the stationary target who knows? I just always got the impression Tszyu gets written off sometimes, not by you though Addie, yours is a well balanced post. Obviously the marauding fightewr is the one we pick over Tszyu more often than not, and that's not Alexis outright, but the man was a fighter and warrior through and through so he could do it, just that it would be a major task imo.

 

A lot of the more modern fighters get written off in the Classic Forum, but I think Alexis has a strong case for victory here. Tsyzu was good in many areas, but the thing that caused Alexis the most problems in his fight with Pryor was the hand speed of Pryor, his never ending stamina and punch output. Even despite all of that, Arguello still landed bombs and maintained competitive until the last second. Tsyzu wouldn't bring that sort of work rate and flurries to the table, making him more of a target for Alexis' shots - and who did Tsyzu ever face on the level of an Arguello? Nobody.

As a side note, Alexis would have probably become a 4 weight world champion if anyone other than Pryor was reigning at the top at the time. I think it just emphasizes how pointless belts are when you consider Alexis could have gone for one of the lesser champions at the time and now be considered a 4 weight world champion. Would it have made him any greater than he was? Not at all.

 

Yeah you have a point, and let me be the first to reply to you with your new avatar!

I still don't want to rule out the quality technician that Tszyu is though, within his own stylistic boundaries that is admittedly. Arguello's clearly the better and greater fighter, Tszyu was the best light welter of his era and the stronger man if it means anything. I don't see an outright stylistic trump card for either man, meaning it likely is just a good fight where the better man on the night wins.

I'm off now Addie, later.

 

I'll go with Arguello by late stoppage after being hurt early on, probably floored as well. Tszyu wasn't as durable as Pryor, and if he was constantly taking the kind of shots Arguello was landing, they'd have far more effect. Arguello's durability was proven time and again, and I think in a tear-up he'd get the better of Tszyu. I do think he'd be troubled a lot early on by Tszyu's constant pressure/power punching style, though. Would be a great fight, that's for sure.

 

What a fight this would be. Two fairly head on guys who had a fantastic right hand and good timing when throwing power shots. Tszyu on his best night possibly takes it, but I feel Arguello is the better ring general, and was very experienced yet still durable at this weight. Tszyu could definitely put some hard shots together and take Arguello out early but Arguellos ability to trade at mid-range and devastating variety of punches would keep Tszyu relatively smart in there. A few tentative and tactical rounds ensue between 5-9 but I feel Arguello would still be putting sone massive shots together and would beat a solid and still dangerous Tszyu to a standstill around the 10th. What a fight!

 

I agree with everything other than Arguello ever being taken out early. If he gets destroyed at this weight, it would be off the cuff of many rounds of consistent punishment. Alexis was very durable, had a lot of heart, and Tyszu never knocked anybody out in the same stratosphere as an Alexis Arguello. Most likely, Tyszu would back off a bit the moment he feels the power of those perfectly thrown straight rights and uppercuts to the body.

If Pryor takes notice of those shots, and he did, they might just get Tyszu out of there.

 

whats an ipick

is that like a virtual pick

 

Arguello looked faded to me at 140 in comparison to 135 and especially 130, although having had over 80 fights by the time he fought Pryor, one can hardly hold it against him.
This is a close fight; Tszyu gets written off a bit much for my liking at times. His problem here, other than being less durable than Pryor, would be his tendency to slow down in the championship rounds, Arguello's bread and butter. Still, he had the technical efficiency and precision power punching to seriously threaten this version of Arguello IMO.

 

I think that Tyszu was a little stronger, and a better puncher, than Pryor. I don't think that Tyszu was able to throw as many hard shots over the course of a fight. Punch for punch Tyszu was more damaging. Fight for fight, the edge swings to Pryor.

It's an interesting match up. Tyszu usually fights a little more measured than Pryor, and this may allow him to land with more accuracy. Pryor's output may have kept him from taking more shots from Arguello.

I think that Tyszu is vulnerable to punches down the middle, and Arguello would exploit this. When I first saw this thread, I though Tyszu had a good chance. After thinking about it, he doesn't.

Arguello tko 10.