FROCH VS DIRRELL : official judges' scorecards released

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  1. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :huh. good question
     
  2. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    You scored the 9th 9-9 :huh why?
     
  3. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those cards are ****ed. I have something that I disagree with vehemently on all of them. Does this mean a fix? I honestly think it just may mean that boxing judges are incredibly succeptible to things other than the scoring criteria they are supposed to use and the angle that you see the fight from (including tv) strongly influences when you actually do apply the criteria.

    Boxing judging is subjective. More than anything, this fight proves that.

    (But that Italian judge is the most ****ed of all.)
     
  4. Wordup

    Wordup Big Stiff Idiot Full Member

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    Judging by your avatar you should be the last person saying anyone has a ****ed up face.
     
  5. Davo-The-Don

    Davo-The-Don Big Swinging Thang Full Member

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    I actually gave froch the first 7 rounds on a re-watch of the fight. That said a few of them were close.

    some posters said I was mad.

    Well looking at the judges score cards, at least one of the 3 gave froch one of the first 7 rounds. So not so mad after all. lol.
     
  6. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't be bragging about coinciding with those cards.

    You're mad.
     
  7. Davo-The-Don

    Davo-The-Don Big Swinging Thang Full Member

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    **** off.

    Like I said I gave Froch the first seven rounds. Look at their score cards...... there is always a judge that has given Froch one of the first seven rounds. I am stating facts here. You will also note that very few rounds have a consensus between the 3 judges which means this fight was hard to score. I gave Dirrell rounds 8,9,10 and 11. (although 10 was a draw due to the point deuction)
     
  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looking at these then, you could say it was the mixed first four rounds that benefitted Froch the most.

    While the other eight rounds were still fairly mixed as well, it was arguably clearer that Froch impressed the judges more in the middle four, Dirrell in the last four.

    There were only four rounds with a consensus.
    Rounds 6, 7 and 8...all given to Froch
    Round 10...all given as 9-9, point deduction from a round Dirrell would otherwise have won.
     
  9. Davo-The-Don

    Davo-The-Don Big Swinging Thang Full Member

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    whoever posted the scores here as made a mistake.

    the mexican judge scored round 10 a 9-9. Not round 9 as is posted here.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Highlighted the rounds that were well off, Dirrell won 11 and 4 BIG you cant not give those 2 to him so somethings messed up when they score those to Froch. Rochin took the point off the wrong round.
     
  11. Davo-The-Don

    Davo-The-Don Big Swinging Thang Full Member

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    that's a typo. the Mexican had round 10 as 9-9.
     
  12. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    :patsch @ the Italian judge given Froch the 11th round.. It was possibly Dirrells best round..
     
  13. Davo-The-Don

    Davo-The-Don Big Swinging Thang Full Member

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    he gave dirrell 4 and 5 though in which he did nothing to impress. I gave those to froch, but yeah I gave dirrell round 11.
     
  14. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about the italian ref having MIXED UP THE SIDES, so he scored the Dirrell rounds for Froch, and vice versa ?

    That would have meant, Dirrell really won on his scorecard, and the fight ...
     
  15. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll never understand...why when people say "WOW that was a close Round"...Then gives the round to a particular fighter.

    IF ITS A "CLOSE" ROUND...SCORE IT EVEN!!!!!!!!!!

    The way I score fights (using logic) is if NO FIGHTER separates himself as the clear winner of a round....I score it even.

    Close rounds with Little Activity 9-9
    Close rounds with a lot of Activity 10-10

    If you score all close rounds to one fighter....You'll have a "LOP-SIDED" scorecard thats not indicative of a CLOSE FIGHT 119-111 or 118-110...and so on & so on!!!

    I had rounds 2,9,10 & 12 EVEN
    2. 9-9
    9. 10-10
    10. 9-9 (Point Deduction)
    12. 10-10

    115-114 Dirrell.