Wladimir Klitschko....will he go down as an all-time great heavyweight?

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  1. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO He should have recognized as heavyweight champion a long time ago but the politics in boxing prevented the match ups. He has the best resume of all the heavyweights today.....has wins over former titlists Peter, Ibragimov, Ray Mercer, Chris Byrd(2x), Lamont Brewster and a host of top ten contenders. People will say he isnt tough enough, or he is mechanical but one thing he has been most of his career is dominant. He showed signs of greatness and a true champion by coming back and improving his style and form. Correcting errors to get to the next level. IMO he should be remembered as an all-time great....I dont see any era he would compete or be top 5 or a champion. I'd pick very few current all-time greats to defeat him outside Ali, Foreman, Holmes, and Joe Louis...everyone else is even money or he ko's or stops
     
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  2. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
     
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  3. TommyV

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    I don't think that he is among the best H2H, but I think you have to cut him a bit of slack and say look, this era isn't great, but he's clearing it out and that's all he can do. He can only beat what's put in front of him. Aslong as for the next few years he fights the best around, however good they may actually be, and dominants then the answer is yes. But he'll be outside the top 10 for sure.
     
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  4. cupid

    cupid LONDONER Full Member

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    Yeah only in his dreams.
     
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  5. bonds

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    who is the best boxer he ever beat?
     
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  6. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but certainly not the top tier.
     
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  7. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    Chris Byrd, he demolished him twice.
    Other than that: if you rule the HW division for a certain period of time, you should get granted ATG status. Jack Sharkey and Ingemar Johannson are in the HOF, why shouldn't Wlad be?
     
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  8. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How about consistency and dominanca as another important aspect of greatness? Rahman beat Lewis, Douglas beat Tyson, Wlad will end his career without a win of that magnitude. I would argue that he is a better and more accomplished fighter than either Douglas or Rahman. An ATG can have a bad day and lose to a lesser fighter. But to win and dominate with Wlad's consistency requires something special.
     
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  9. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    He's hardly lost a round against the top of the division over the last 5 years.
     
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  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad still has a couple of years to cement his legacy. Or to blow it.
     
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  11. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope! he is very good and should make it into the HOF but not an ATG. I will take that back he may make the top 20.
     
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  12. Lewisbell

    Lewisbell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He will sercure his legacy against Povetkin and Chambers with 2 x 120-108 wins, ruining both fighters in the process
     
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  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is if he ruins them as fighters, is anyone going to know they've been ruined?
     
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  14. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    He needs another big fighter (physically and figuratively) to go up against to make his name. The fact that a lot of casual fans (that I know anyway) have only seen his fight with Ibragimov won't help his case.
     
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  15. Monte Fisto

    Monte Fisto Active Member Full Member

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    I'd give him a nod for Top25-30. Like previously said, his continued domination of the current heavies is nothing short of impressive. So far I'd say his real "champion fight"(personal vocab, describing a fight in which a fighter showed great determination and heart) would be when he got off the mat 3 times to out point Peter.
     
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