Hi Folks. Just wondering what opinions are out there on Andy Lee and how far you think he can go. Personally I think his potential is massive and believe he is going to be a world champ once he irons out a few things. He has excellent strengths such as good jab, good power in either hand and sweet right hook. I know he has weaknesses like he can't tie up when he's hurt and struggles to cut off the ring sometimes but these can be learnt. Now to the Vera loss. It was clearly evident that Lee was able to continue in that fight. He wasn't even knocked down for christs sake. I think he proved that he can take hard punches because he was hit flush on numerous occasions in that round and didn't hit the deck once nor tie up. He actually hit back even though he was hurt which for me shows heart. Had this fight continued as it should have I have no doubt that Andy would have cleared his head and won a clear decision. I think he is a forgotten man at the moment with Macklin grabbing the headlines (and rightfully so with achievements of late) but for me Andy lee will do a lot more in this division. A certain world champ. Thoughts?
Just like Duddy and Dunne he is another hype job from Ireland... He will possibly fight for the Euro title but can't see Macklin lose to him to be honest. He has the possibility of a mega showdown with Duddy at 160 that will generate a lot of interest and money and, if I were him, I'd take it.
Hard to judge Lee, recently I think he is finding it hard to motivate himself against recent fighters. As you say when watching him you know he has very good talent but you can also see big flaws especially his defence. In his fight against the Latvian he got hit way too many times for my liking. I missed the Schuler fight so can't really comment on how he is looking recently. His next opponent seems to be paving the way for a fight with Macklin. Should be a good fight to gauge his power after all Affif went 10 rounds with N'Jikam and i don't think he has been down either.
balls mate, everyone in ireland is in no way deluded about duddys ability, the thing is he got famous in the states before he was even known over here, and he is popular because of his style which is tv friendly. i dont think many are under the illusion that hes a world beater but it doesnt mean we cant get behind him dunne is a world class boxer, whom had lost only 2 fights to similar styled fighters. its not unusual to believe that styles make fights and dunne doesnt match up well agaisnt that style, but hes beaten some very good fighters and his bout with cordoba was something to behold. all due respect id take the opinion of roach and vasquez on bernards abilities over your own. lee is a superb box puncher and would manny steward invest so much of his time and money into a no hope hype job? i dont think so and your infering that the majority of fighters from ireland are hype jobs coming from a uk perspective? ahem hatton, khan, maccarenelli, rees, alex arthur,nicky cook, harrison etc???
Very good points. I think his defence is keeping people on the end of his jab all night long. I think his confidence took a knock against Vera, even though I think he would have won easy had the ref not prematurely stopped it. He should not have been protected after this fight. I think his next fight as you said will motivate him and we will see the best of him. Affif has been in with some good opossition (n'jikam the stand out) and is on an excellent run since that loss. Great to see steward giving him some step up. I hope this would be a move for a fight with Macklin but personally I think Macklin is looking more towards a world title shot.
Half my family are in Dublin so I spend a lot of time over there... Duddy was being bigged up as a possible future World Champion and almost everyone I spoke to thought he would have beaten Kelly Pavlik. Dunne is far from being World class and is probably the biggest hype job in Europe over the last few years in my opinion. The fight against Cordorba was good but I cant forget that most people I spoke to in Ireland thought he, Dunne, was at least 5 rounds ahead at the time of the stoppage atsch And he WASN'T a World Champion. As for Lee, I have no doubts that he will be finally exposed for what he is...hype. British fans and commentators are prone to exgaggerate the ability of some of their fighters but compared to those idiots you have commentating on RTE, surely the worst I have ever heard, I wouldn't call the kettle black.
i think the fans you are refering to are those whos equivilant in england are those fans whom think hatton is a p4p no.1 and could 'win' the p4p title, they dont know **** about boxing. il give you a bye ball on RTE jimmy magee, hes a confused old man who again doesnt really know **** about boxing. how could dunne be the most hyped man in europe? il agree to disagree on the world champ thing, in my eyes he won a world belt, not one of those Warren Boxing Organisation ones either. hes beaten good quality fighters and in a pure boxing sense hes world level. cordoba was/is world class and bernard knocked him out, what more do you want... we could spend all day arguing about lee but its all moot until he proves it or fails so we will have to see. imo he beats macklin, sylvester and sturm at this point
There's about as much chance that Macklin will beat Kelly Pavlik as there is that Andy lee will beat Matthew Macklin.
I think whoever is handling Lee might as well stick him in at the deep end and see how he goes. There has been no direction to his career at all, he has been (in name only) a journeyman. Six rounder here, ten rounder there, eight rounds somewhere else. No wonder he lost focus and was beaten by Brian Vera. I don't see him becoming world class, nor beating someone like Macklin. But I would back him to win the European against the right opponent, and stand Duddy on his head. The pair of them have been marketed very well, sent to the States to grab the easy money where they are crazy for Irish boxers. But in terms of substance, not a great deal from Lee (to date) and even less from Duddy.