Mike Tyson (1988) Vs Jack Dempsey (1919-21) 15 Rd Heavyweight Fight

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  1. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a dream match up for any boxing fan a fight between two of the most ferocious fighters in history and would of most defiantly have been a brutal contest.

    Mike Tyson's record in title fights is (11W 4L 0D 9KO's) over a 16 year period.

    Jack Dempsey's record in title fights is (6W 2L 0D 5KO's) over a 8 year period.

    This fight in my opinion would be such a ferocious and all action fight between two powerful puncher's. Dempsey is the more raw vicious talent as Tyson is the more skilled technician and defensive fighter but also has the ferocious combination's. I'm gonna with Tyson's greater skill and defense to be to much for Dempsey.

    Mike Tyson By 8 Rd KO

    so who do think wins this fight between both fighters at their peak.
     
    sugarsean, Oct 21, 2009
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  2. Quitali Bitchko

    Quitali Bitchko The Punisher Full Member

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    I can only see this going one way. Early, possibly first round KO for Mike. Why? Well this will sound like a cliche, but I cant help it, its true. Too much power, too much speed, too much skill. Tyson would eat Dempsey alive, this is a total missmatch. :-(
     
    Quitali Bitchko, Oct 22, 2009
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Shoot me, but I think that Dempsey's defence is better than Tyson's. Yes, on film.

    But I still pick Tyson. It's the punch resistance that does it though. For the record; he wants to get this done early.
     
    McGrain, Oct 22, 2009
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  4. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If both men have the same facilities open to them then this is a 50-50
     
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  5. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :goodagreed
     
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  6. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dempsey had a defence ??
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Beautiful little dips and tucks of the head and chin, combined with tip-toe footwork and top-line mobility against Jess Willard. His head movement was arbitary, economical and very quick all with his head properly positioned.

    I wish he'd used this style against Firpo, too, instead of slugging, but you could argue Firpo took that decision out of his hands. Basically Willard is the only opponent he boxes against as though he's out-gunned, which i'm assuming he would also do were he to be matched with Tyson prime for prime.
     
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  8. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think a peak tyson is better in every department including head movement.its a mismatch
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's definitely not a mismatch. Dempsey is fast and can hit hard. At the very least Dempsey would be the 3rd best fighter Tyson had ever mixed with and he lost to the other two, and personally i'd rate Dempsey as better than Holyfield.

    As to Tyson's head movement, it was amazing, but patterened, I think. You'd need ice in your veins, but you could time him. Timing Dempsey would be more difficult.
     
    McGrain, Oct 22, 2009
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  10. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    idf this fight could happen i would support dempsey. but if i have to put money on it i put my money on tyson. i think tyson is the better version of dempsey (not mental) but purely fysical, in the way of fighting.
     
    junior-soprano, Oct 22, 2009
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  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Horrendous match up for Dempsey ... simply terrible ... Tyson, KO, early.
     
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  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Tyson was a big fan of Dempsey, in fact he modeled himself after him. I could imagine that Tyson would be happy like a child beeing in the ring with his idol! And while the ref makes his speech he asks Jack for an autograph and is looking for a pencil, the ref starts the fight and the Manassa Mauler sucker punches Tyson.
    Dempsey KO1 Tyson :D

    Nah, to be real this is a very even matched fight. Both are very similar with the power edge going to Tyson while Dempsey is a bit better in the defence and ring intelligence area I think. Both are fast starters, so I suppose the fight will end early (if not I would make JD the favourite to win, 15 to 12 round experience). Tyson´s head movement could be timed, Dempsey was good at this. So I suppose Dempsey wins but the chances are 60/40 at best.
     
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  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As good as Dempsey was,he'd have been tailor made for Tyson. Dempsey would be knocked out early.
     
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  14. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    be fair though,tyson would have gone straight over and help pick dempsey up after the ten count.
     
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  15. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mike Tyson By early fight stoppage. Dempsey will slug it out with Tyson. Tyson will ko Dempsey early
     
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