Kessler vs Ward-Your analyses

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  1. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What leads you to believe that?
     
  2. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Ward will eat shots early in the fight, be entirely tentative and make it hard (like Mundine) for Kessler to finish him off. I think Kessler will close the gaps better than Froch did against Dirrell and in the exchanges, his straight precise punching will have him dominate the fight.

    I see this either being an early stoppage (Ward getting hit with something he cant recover from) or a boring, defensive minded running spree from Ward where he is beaten 118-110 or something similar.
     
  3. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    And the reason why? Kessler has handspeed at a level comparable with Ward. While he is not a combination puncher, you should never under-estimate a guy who can trigger punches as quickly as Kessler did.

    Kessler was out-triggering Calzaghe early in their fight and forced Calzaghe to change up. Somehow I don't see Ward being able to outjab Kessler the way Calzaghe did. For this fight? All you need to witness is the Mundine fight.

    Mundine is a better fighter than Ward currently is.
     
  4. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    It's a secret. Can't give it away. Be sure to quote me November 22nd though.
     
  5. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Kessler for me until proven otherwise.
     
  6. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    If Ward does beat Kessler, we have huge reason to be excited and happy though. In my view, beating Kessler as a young fighter indicates you're going to have a career on scale with some of the greats.

    Kessler is a difficult fighter to master owing to how well he performs the basics, how good his physical attributes are and his ring intelligence. You do have to be a great fighter to beat Kessler, even if he hasn't yet proved himself a great fighter.
     
  7. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    kessler gave calzaghe all sorts of problems and a fighter without joes chin could have arguably been ko'd 3 times in the first 6 rounds. he forced calzaghe to fight the best fight of his career. kessler is big strong fast and athletic and in order for ward to beat kessler he needs to mimic calzaghe by boxing on the outside with quick flashy combinations. if he trades with him he's done for and the work rate from ward needs to be intense because kessler has the quality of jab to match or beat wards so a high pace is needed. personally i dont see it, ward imo will win the first couple rounds then he will be out jabbed then in 5 onwards he will be walked down. ward can move though and once he tastes kesslers power he will meaning there may be no tko.


    good fight though i think unlike a ugly spoiling match and a mismatch from last week.
     
  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    You got most of that right, but you missed the point of how Calzaghe beat Kessler. Calzaghe threw away the flashy combinations because they were opening him up to be countered by Kessler.

    He reverted to a far more basic boxing style, utilising the 1-2, the ocassional body shot and lateral movement. He didn't throw in combinations because even in the later rounds, Kessler was still having the best of those exchanges.

    For Ward to beat Kessler, he'll have to be able to out jab Kessler. Very few boxers in this division will go close to that.
     
  9. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    calzaghe fought his most technically proficient fight against kessler cause he had to. kessler is a strong guy and it will be interesting to see if ward can come-up with a plan B like calzaghe (an ATG) had to.
     
  10. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch An ATG!!?? sorry he will never be one
     
  11. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Tell your story walking, douchebag.

    Calzaghe is an undefeated, unified, undisputed champion at a weight and linear champion at two weights.

    He's done things no one else has done in the sport.

    Don't like it? Go **** yourself.
     
  12. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the most overrated fighter in the history of Boxing,everyone knows this
     
  13. Jan(DK)

    Jan(DK) Joined april 2007 Full Member

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    This is my comment from sep. 23 on the subject.

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    ""Comments on the handspeed and fighting on the inside.

    Funny thing is, that before the Calzaghe fight i was sure Kessler would beat him at the distance with the jab. Calzaghe won the jab contest, "because Kessler couldn't handle the second attack", as Enzo said!. Calzaghe simple won more rounds, because he attacked before Kessler was "ready" to clinch again.

    Kessler did very well in the first 4 rounds. In the 2. or 3. round Calzaghe tried to make it to a inside brawl. But strange enough, Kessler had the faster hands, turned Calzaghe around, trapped him at the ropes and throw hard punches. Calzaghe never tried the in fight again.

    Kessler tried to get his counter punching going. And he did very well. Tripping a little back wards, and countering with fast 2-3 combinations and hitting Calzaghe hard more than ones!.

    But Calzaghe could handle it and kept on "stealing the rounds".

    In that fight, Kessler only won rounds when he stepped a little forward, put on pressure and, with very good footwork, cut of the ring. In the Perdomo fight, Kessler tried to counter punch for 2 rounds before he changed his game plan and began to put on pressure. Exactly like he did in his best win against a very similar fighter to Ward - Mundine.

    1) What i am trying to say to Ward fans is: Everybody thought Calzaghe would have the faster hands and would be better at the inside - but they/i was wrong!

    2) If you assumes Kessler to be a well protected EU-fighter your are wrong. Kessler's biggest dream has always been to be the best ever by unifying the belts by fighting the best. So Kessler is more determinate, strong and lethal than ever.

    I could see a competetive fight like Mundine vs. Kessler. Kesslers best win today."

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  14. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Ward is still Green, and Kessler's experience will be of the main factors if not the decisive factor in his victory.
     
  15. dumdane

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    Desperation?