Haye losing against Valuev would be horrible for the HW division

in NY? hell yes they are

people freak me out there when Team Klitschko is there for fights at MSG:yep:|

 

If Haye wins, I think he ends up on the WBA merry-go-round whether he likes it or not. Not sure what the chance of Klit fight is. Happy to be proven wrong, but that'd be my $50 bet.

If Valuev wins, he's probably stuck fighting Ruiz next but if he wins that, it'll be time to cash him out & a Klit fight would seem pretty likely to me (I'm sure the Haye fight is happening now rather than Ruiz as it's a bigger money maker and as good a possible cash out as they could hit and still have a shot at winning).

 

I think it is a numbers game. Haye could not get the percentages that he wanted against the Klitschko's. He realized he needed a belt to have more leverage in negotiations. I don't think Valuev has a good chance of beating Haye because of how he looked against Evander Holyfield. If Haye beats Valuev, not only will he be able to get more money for fighting either or both Klitschko's, but they will get older, and possibly become more beatable. That being said I think he would be better off fighting Wladimir before Vitali. One reason is because his chin is not as good as his brothers, he is alot more beatable, and this would also mean that Vitali is getting older in the meantime. Also if Haye fought Vitali first and beat him I doubt that Wladimir would fight him, however roles reversed I believe Vitali would be out for revenge. The heavyweight division needs fights like this. It is bad for boxing to have a poor heavyweight division.

 

TRUST ME... money was NOT an issue for Haye or a reason he pulled out Haye himself on Sentanta said " the money is settled just working on the last little details"

 

Alright well if it wasn't money than it was somthing else, either way if he had a belt he would be in a better position to negotiate "the last little details".

 

Haye had the chance to fight both Klitschkos and didn´t take it. It wasn´t for the money. Now guess for yourself. Haye is talk and knows that both Klitschkos would beat him up. He just used them to get some media attention.

 

Hopefully you are right, because fights like that are bad for the heavyweight division and for boxing. At this point in his career Evander Holyfield has no business going twelve rounds with anyone in the top ten, much less a title holder. That shows how weak the division is.

 

Haye is still running from Herbie Hide!

 

I dont like both guys but I dont want either of them to lose. Just because then they have no value for the Klitschkos If Haye loses then he's probably done, if Valuev he will not be interesting for the Klits. Although if Valuev loses it would be slightly better because just for his size people would want to see him fight Klitschko. How Klitschko would deal with size disadvantage for the first time.

 

The hype is already crushed and will never be uncrushed regardless of what happens in the Valuev fight. Haye singed to fight two Kilt borthers, and found reasons not to fight them both. Don't even bother giving me the bad contract ****- a great way to be garunteed money is to earn your shot, which garuntees a percentage, but it is clear as the summer sun that Haye knows that every time he stps in the ring with a decent heavy, he is at risk.