Mike Tyson (1988) Vs Jack Dempsey (1919-21) 15 Rd Heavyweight Fight

The way I see it, any man who's smaller and wants to come forward and slug against Tyson is going to get annihilated. It's just a fact of life.

Then again, if Dempsey bulked up, that might even things out a bit. His crude style might make him easy pickings though, and slugging with Tyson is always a no-no. Would be fun to watch though.

 

Jack Dempsey came from a rough era...he was a hard times guy for real...he was mean and had killer instinct and could punch with either hand....This one would be a war...In a blending of the era's and a meeting in the middle.....Jack was just as mean as Mike...It would be a KO but nobody would be ashamed of the outcome....Dempsey had a live chance IMO

 

1. Yes but Holyfield ended up with around 215 pounds of muscle (how he got is irrelevant) so he was a legit heavyweight, of course Dempsey was in his time too, but that time was 90 years ago.

2. If Mike Tyson faced the cruiserweight Holyfield he would have stopped him inside few rounds, yes. Holyfield as a cruiserweight did not yet develop his phyisical strenght to the extent he did later on.

3. Silly in a way - the again not. Back in those days boxing was not as perfect as it later came to be and nutrition and training werent as advanced, therefore an athlete from that time would be at quite a disadvantage to an athlete from ˙˙our˙˙ time - in almost every other sport not just boxing. So I dont see it silly.

4. Yes we did. Againts Holmes, Tubbs, Ruddock and other fights. Im not saying we saw anything spectacular but good enough. But as I said, I dont feel in this case this would make any difference anyway.

5. Bigger, stronger, more skilled, faster with a better chin etc. Comparing Holyfield to Dempsey is useless in disscusing the Tyson-Dempsey fantasy match up.

And please people, enough with the Dempsey power. Yes he had great power, he was a Foreman of his time no doubt about it. But let's not forget he mostly fought what today are light heavys and cruiserweights and total bums at that and yes of course he had a few legit heavys at around 220 and two freaks around 250 who he overwhelmed with punches. Again Dempsey was not a true heavyweight by his physical build and I wouldnt put him into the top 10 in the power department. And I surely wouldnt put his power close to Tyson or Foreman or Shavers. What is keeping me from doing that is facts, evidence, logic and laws of physics.

As much as I love these old time warriors I dont let nostaligc feelings get the better of me. Dempsey would have no chance at a tittle had he come during the 70's, 80's or 90's - as he was back then. How he could develope himself with modern training techniques, well, nobody knows.

 

Hes right though Janitor does live in a fantasy world where size/strength mean nothing, where Jess Willard has elite level boxing skills, where Froch/Gatti level skills dominate boxing (ie pre1930s skill sets)

 

First of all Holyfield boxed and Dempsey slugged. If a 190 pound Holyfield charged face first into an 1988 Tyson I feel he would have been crushed. In addition, we know Evander had an all time great chin , proven v.s. huge punchers like Lewis and Tyson while Dempsey is far less proven in the chin department.

 

And where Mike Tyson could be competitive against Wladimir Klitschko and Muhammad Ali could go the distance with Lennox Lewis, ie. a fantasy world.