Cotto blasts Vargas & El Gato Figueroa!

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  1. cubex

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    If you believ Cotto is a better fighter and would'ev beat Vargas that's ok,no problem with that.

    But to call a accomplished amateur and pro like Vargas a bum is complete idiocy.
     
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    You don't need a nuthugger to tell you its not realistic, any person who's been watching boxing for longer than 5 minutes will tell you prime Vargas is an unfair match up for Cotto due to his size..
     
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    Really??? Based on what??

    Are you aware that Vargas NEVER lost to anyone on Margarito's level in his prime???

    And the a SHOT Vargas gave Mosley just a good a fight as a Prime Cotto gave Mosley???

    Are you aware that Cotto has never clearly beat anyone as good as Ike Quartey, and that Cotto's contreversial win over Mosley is not as good as Vargas' contreversial win over Winky.

    Vargas skill level was on par with Winky, Trinidad and ODLH's.
     
  4. rican911

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    we call boxers bums all the time, vargas had 20 fights and got whiped out, hes considered a bum !! in my book. no boxer even with meny loses is a bum. abbie (the gold medalist cotto defeated) was an accomplished amatuer. vargas is good, dont get me wrong, but cotto would of beaten him, thats all. only way to settle this is a fantasy match up between him and margarito, in which case i belive miguel just fought the wrong fight, (to be funny, dont hang e) because hes stupid.
     
  5. valdez

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    :deal
     
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    good ****, thanx for the update Hulk
     
  7. cubex

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    By ''we'' you mean you and who?

    I certainly don't call anybody excet a bum a bum.So what if he had 20 wins and then lost?That's just a testament that he got fed to the lions to early(Trinidad might have even cheaetd).
    Youngest US national champ ever,youngest JMW champ ever,2 time champ,beat Wright,Campas,Quartey,Castillejo,etc.
    Weather or not you believ eCotto is better it's hard to bealive Cotto would beat him H2H2 at 154 sicne the size difference is so big.
     
  8. valdez

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    This is exactly what I've been trying to get across.. Cotto is a former 140, Vargas was a big 154..

    Its common sense to some people..
     
  9. rican911

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    he gave great fights, but dont preceive that as him being better tha cotto, just because some flash in the ring. cotto has fought every worth while welterweight and jr welterweight and came out on top except for one fighter, which he fought stupidly doing floyd mayweather moves on the ropes. that compares to vargas record, could be even better. we dont know because cotto fought them young, and none of them has completed their career yet. cotto is this times welterweight king. vargas was nothing more than a punching bag in his.
     
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    have u seen margarito??? hes moving up to 154, clottey is a big welterweight too !! margarito went toe to toe with paul williams who defeated winky wright and daniel santos whos a 154 champion, u are not looking that hard.
     
  11. Kush

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    Vargas would leave Cotto six feet deep
     
  12. Bazooka

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    The smaller Ike Quartey gave Fernando a hand full, he was also comming off of a 2 year lay off, and moving up in weight to fight Vargas.....
    Winky Wright Beat Vargas IMO....

    Trinidad who also moved up from welter destroyed him, as well as Oscar who moved up from welter....
    The in between you had Vargas with Rivera of which the Jr welter weight Rivera had vargas on his ass and basicly out, How Nando survived that we will never know what I can say is he went down exactly the way he did with Mosley.....
     
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    Margarito also had Cotto looking like an extra from the texas chainsaw massacre in case you forgot.. He was huge compared to Cotto.. Also Vargas beat Winky Wright in his PRIME... so your argument really holds no weight.. In fact it may even go in Vargas's favour.. :lol:
     
  14. cubex

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    I'm talking as better all time or better resume but being better H2H has less to do with those things and to me Vargas is better H2H.Don't see how you could say different.
    You're obviouslly extremely bias.Cotto is no WW king.He's a top 10 p4p fighter just like Vargas was before Trinidad.
     
  15. rican911

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    ownage !! so its a good fight, not some fantasy of Vargas being over dominat !!