Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

I think the trick is called skills, size, speed, power, a great chin, and smarts.

 

I'm glad to see that this thread is still rolling along. It's almost reached the status of an internet friend to me! I look for it every time I log on.

 

Yep. The brothers have the same obvious weaknesses as fighters (the Sanders fight perfectly demonstrated the affliction for both).

before they sleep,


" ... and thank you for the absence of quality mega-sized athletes in the division, thank you for letting us be the taller man in the ring by some distance in nearly every fight, thank you for the immense popularity of the NFL/NBA and their collegiate minor leagues, thank you for the near absolute lack of interest in (heavyweight) boxing in the USA, thank you for all of the "C" class USA big men (that couldn't make it in the highly competitive popular sports) that also lack an "A" level willingness to train and condition, thank you for old part-time boxers and their love for donuts and beer, thank you for ..."

 

Jersey Joe Walcott never lost by DQ in his entire career. What are you on bruva? :blood

 

None of those were known as pressure fighters.
There's no reason why a tall boxer should go toe to toe if it isn't his natural style.

 

Scoring of fights in Louis's era heavily favoured the agressor.

Today if you get soundly outboxed but force the fight you loose while in Louis's era you could argue it either way.

Jersey Joe Walcott would probably have got the decision in his first fight against Louis had the fight been scored today. As it was many argued that Louis deserved the decision because the fight only took place because he went after Walcott.

In the second Louis Walcott fight the reff threatended to DQ Walcott if he did not make the fight. This might have forced him to fight more agresivley than he would have elected to and get knocked out.

If the Klitschko brothers had fought in that era many of their fights would have been scored more favourably towards their opponents and the criticism they get today for fighting safety first would have seemed mild.

 

Exactly how many of Vitali's fights have gone to the scorecards? The desperation of these arguments is amusing. However, they are laudable in their creativity.

 

Actually I give a fu** if refs favoured the agressor.
You talked about DQ and penalizing. Walcott wasn't DQed or penalized. Favouring one fighter is one thing, penalizing is another.
If you're that obsessed in that matter then tell me how Willie Pep could win at all.

 

The Klitschko fights are easy to score because they win 90%+ of the rounds clean with over 85% of them ending in KO wins. Its their opponents that are on the defensive for the majority of the time, not them.

 

I have given you a title fight where he was threatened with a DQ, if he as the defnsive fighter, did not go toe to toe with the puncher.

 

This argument was promted by another poster implying that fighters today were heavily criticised for using defensive tactics.

I pointed out what had to be pointed out.

 

He was threatened, and wasn't DQed.



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