Jamie Moore was weight drained!!

I thought Moore looked like he was fighting underwater from round 1 to be honest, i agree with you on Moore's bulk, don't like it, never have agreed with that principle, natural genetics play a role when you get past 26 as well, forget all that crap that gets spouted about if you can make weight you can fight at the weight, thats just plain stupid & dangerous, you go past 26 & you natuarlly thicken out & prep time becomes all the more of an impotence & it don't help by having the burdon of excess muscle mass yer body was'nt designed for.

I'am glad Rhodes won the fight, fantastic for him, i was worried for the 1st 4 rounds but he's a smart operator & class act & i'd fancied him to win in it by his boxing ability alone so was a bit suprised at the TKO.

 

In the US, many young, black fighters looked at Roy Jones and decided to copy his style - but with maybe an eighth of the talent. It looked great when it was some tomato can whose legs were gone, but against guys who could move a bit and get inside, they were helpless.

I think in the UK, many fighters really admire Hatton and the way he used bodyshots to open his opponents up. Hatton, pre-Tyszu, used head movement and his natural strength, plus underrated boxing ability, to get inside. His physical attributes perfectly suited the style he developed with Billy Graham all those years.

Too many UK fighters try to emulate that style, like Macklin did when he lost to Moore. Macklin looks much much better now he uses the jab to get his distance, then throws sharp straight shots and mixes body work into the mix.

Onto your specific point, I don't think British fighters use bodywork enough. Look at Froch against Dirrell - he wasted all that energy swinging for Dirrell's head when it was obvious Dirrell had the reflexes and body movement to get out of the way. Froch should have come in low and worked to Dirrell's body - the one part he can't move.

The main issue is that UK fighters often aren't rounded enough. Anyone looking to go for world honours should be sparring in foreign gyms to learn different styles and take on proven A-level fighters - with that sort of experience, particularly against mexican fighters, they'd learn why you use body work.

 

Rob, I welcome the variety you bring - you usually open up good threads, even if I disagree with your posts. And I do think Dan was a bit harsh.

But Asikainen? Come on...

I have a few Scots to pick from, but they usually aren't worth the bother. Alex Arthur? What a waste of energy to support that lazy ****. Also, where the hell has he gone - is he retired?

 

I'm talking about your misguided arrogance and poor spelling and grammar.:yep

With that kind of evidence, why continue arguing?

Yeah, I'm well angry about some throw away comment you made that may suggest you had an inkling about how the fight might turn out. Unsurprisingly, there was very little justification and analysis though.

Debatable. Most are self serving diatribes as far as I can see.:smoke

Just keeping it real.:good

 

Mate, a good bodyshot is worth 2 to the head, believe me. It's all about your position to throw the shot.Thrown at the wrong time, a fighter can be vulnerable. Hatton-Castillo:good Kahn-Prescott:nono

 

Yeah the guy seems absolutely huge to be fighting that weight, very bulky fella. The first time I saw him I thought "wtf? no way can he be fighting at that weight". For a guy to be that bulky and be fighting in that division, dude must have a skeleton made of carbon fibre or some ****.

 

Well that is still Moores fault.

Looseing a figth because your weight drained is as bad as leaving your chin out and getting caught. The training and preperation is as important as what happens in the ring.

 

Problem with Moore moving up is that he is only 5'8", all the decent domestic MWs seem to be 6' +

 

hey don't get me wrong I'm not making up no excuses, he got beat fair and square, his own fault, just saying that for a guy to look like that and weigh so less, it defies logic :think

 

I do most of my posts via an iphone but granted my grammar is poor. but really who gives a ****

I watch allot of boxing. you can clearly see british fighters go to the body more than others, most would agree with that.

It was not a throw away comment, i made several posts about how i thought Rhodes would win. One of the main reason people thought Moore would win was because of his size advantage, and i felt his bulk was a disadvantage

Its a forum. People debate and put there opinions across. if you dont like it dont ****ing read it.

yeh, keeping it real.....your amazing! maybe if i start putting smiley faces after every sentance people will like me more.

 

the worry is that at middleweight i cannot see him doing anything. he is 5ft8 right?? guys like barker will jab him all night. he won his fights at light middle using strentgh and toughness, he wont have those advantages as much at middle

 

My amazing what?

As for the rest of your rant: :|:|:|:|:|

:smoke

 

It's a bit like Ricky Hatton going up to Welterweight and being nowhere near as effective.

Who knows though, it might work out.

Overall the fight reminded me of the macklin fight except Moore was winning rounds against Macklin and I didn't have Rhodes winning many up until the stoppage. But Moore just seemed to tire himself out. I think this was partly done to Rhode's tactics though, he was inviting Moore onto him and I think Moore's instincts took over and he just went for it more than he should.

Just rewatched the Moore Macklin fight and how Macklin fought like that for nearly ten rounds is astounding, every punch he put 100% into. Also I think this fight showed Moore can fight smart and fight on the back foot, he isn't just a walk forward plodder.

 

These types of threads should be created a few weeks after the fight as a point of discussion - its really taking the shine away from what was an incredible performance from Rhodes.

 

Shut up !

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