If Marquez was "too small" for Mayweather, Isn't Pac as well?

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  1. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey guys,

    I don't understand the logic of many fans and writers. They claimed that Mayweather was too big for Marquez and that's why he won (even though Mayweather didn't beat him with size or strength, but rather supreme skill, quickness, defense, footwork, movement, intelligence, etc), however, the same people are clamoring for a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Pacquiao at least as small and in some ways even smaller than Marquez? How many times have the same people commented on how Pacquiao started his career at 107lbs (even though he was only 16 and Mayweather weighed the same at that age but was an amateur and not a pro). I fail to undersatnd the logic. How is Marquez too small for Floyd, but Pacquiao is big enough? Is it because he's a bigger puncher than Marquez? I thought we were talking strickly about size??

    Pac Marquez

    Height: 5'6 1/2 Height: 5'7
    Reach: 67" Reach: 67"
    Weight:135-142 Weight: 135-142
    Chest (normal): 38" Chest (normal): 41"
    Chest (expanded) 40.5" Chest (expanded) :44"
    Biceps: 13" Biceps: 14"
    Forearm: 12" Forearms: 12"
    Waist: 28" Waist: 29"
    Thigh: 20" Thigh: 19"
    Calves:15" Calves: 13"
    Neck: 16" Neck: 16"
    Wrist: 8" Wrist: 6 1/2
    Fist: 10" Fist 11 1/2
     
  2. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    i think the problem is that Marquez never fought that high while Pac has had a couple fights 140 or more now.
     
  3. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    IMO yes he is. People should remember that NEITHER of these guys belong at WW.
     
  4. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes pacquiao is also too small and even less equiped to handle mayweathers defense. He'll get beat as soundly as marquez if not worse should him and floyd ever meet in the ring.

    They are too hot fighters right now so people want to see them mix it up despite the fact taht it's a mismatch.
     
  5. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    Exactly.. and more importantly Marquez went toe to toe with Pac.. yet looked very ordinary against Mayweather..
     
  6. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    After Pac defeats Cotto, the answer will be No
     
  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    2 fights i think you ment. But now is 3 fighters at a higher weight when he face Cotto. Now about this thread, When Mayweather fought Marquez, it was the first time Marquez move up in weight that is over 140 pounds in which Pacquiao has already 1 times over 140 pounds and has fought 1 time at 140 ko Hatton. Marquez still hasn't fought at 140 pounds. So sorry man to me Marquez was clearly the smaller fighter when he fought Mayweather.
     
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here's the thing...Pac (being younger, faster and stronger) has adjusted to the higher weights much better than Marquez. He presents much more of a threat to Mayweather than Marquez does/did.
     
  9. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    yea...this was what i was trying to say....lol...great post:good
     
  10. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    I don't buy this at all. Pac is much faster than JMM, especially the JMM of last 2 fights.. huge advantage. Unlike JMM he has not only kept his power, he has added to it as he went up. 140 is prob Pacs ideal weight right now. I think PBF has slowed down considerably and this will be v apparent if he has the balls to fight Pac
     
  11. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It isn't about actual physical size. Its about how comfortable you are at the weight. Marquez started going downhill at 135, Pacquiao appears better than ever at 140, beating the top 140 pounder (who despite being called shot by bitter fans made Malignaggi his *****). If the fight happens and Pacquiao loses, size may play a tiny roll, but the brunt of it would come down to Mayweather's defensive genius and timing versus Pacquiao's in and out offensive style.
     
  12. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    then why should Floyd?? most people think his best years were at superfeather? :patsch

    You belong wherever you can win dude.
     
  13. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Pac has fought at a higher weight against DLH and Hatton and looked good in doing so. Marquez did not look comfortable and is better fighting at a lower weight. There is a possibility he will be too small but he would have a better chance than Marquez.
     
  14. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    That is true. Compared to Mayweather, Pacquiao is relatively small, the difference is between Marquez and Pacquiao is that, Pacquiao has proven himself in the higher weight division than Marquez. Marquez on the other hand although he won his fights at 135, IMO, he was flat footed and took heavy damage from Diaz.

    Also, if you compare Pacquiao and Marquez physical apperance you'll notice that Pacquiao's body is leaner and bulky than Marquez's, hence Pacquiao being a bit heavier than Marquez.
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Pacquaio has a couple of succesful fights in and around the weight, so he is probably better suited to compete at welter. That said, he doesn't belong at welterweight, IMO. And obviously neither does Marquez.