Roy Jones that beat Montell Griffin vs Calzaghe

As a big Calzaghe fan, I have to disagree.

 

Would be a close fight, settled on decision, its a pick em.

 

Malinga UD'ed Reid and scored a split decision victory over Benn IN THE U.K... but yeah, the guy was a bum obviously. And look at the way Roy ate him up.
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You Calzaghe fans keep telling yourselves what might've happened, how it COULD have been. Keep finding angles to strengthen Joe's career through other fights taking place today which don't even involve him, whatever you need to do to convince yourself he's nothing more than the Welsh Ottke.

 

The irony here is, the best conclusion we can make is that maybe Jones Jr wouldn't have dominated Calzaghe in the way everyone expected him too prior to their fight. Calzaghe showed how easy he dealt with a 80% Jones Jr.

 

Roy with no legs, no reflexes and a peekabo defense from getting KTFO'ed twice isn't anywhere close to 80%.

 

And you believe that was Calzaghe with the reflexes, movement and speed he had in his prime?

Jones Jr said it himself "Calzaghe would have been my toughest challenge at any point in my career" after the fight.

When Jones Jr beats Hopkins, I wonder if people will start to realise, gym rats don't detoriate so fast. In Jones Jr's case, losing the weight from HW was what screwed him in those fights, not age.

He's even now, still probably capable of handling Chad Dawson in my estimates.

 

Roy Jones has NO LEGS ANYMORE. None. He sits on the ropes for 80% of every fight, including the one against lacy, because he simply can't move around the ring effectively. That was his greatest defensive asset, being able to dart quickly out of range. He was never an in-the-pocket fighter to the extent Hopkins is -- that's not how he made his mark. Furthermore, he never EVER had a peekabo defense before getting KO'ed by Glen Johnson. Enzo even pointed this out post-fight, saying the know Jones would take the bait with the feints.

I don't know how much more proof one needs. You have Joe quoted in 2003 as saying he wouldn't risk a fight with Jones unless it was for all the jewels, then you have Calzaghe on a video in this very thread right before the hopkins fight saying Jones was finished and done for, and not a worthwhile opponent anymore -- so who does he go and fight? That's right, Roy Jones.
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Prime Jones would rip Joe a new one.

 

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Who's terrible alter is SGROTUM, anyways?

 

Jones Jr wasn't really tested in his prime by a proven fighter of Joe's callibre.

We learnt after the fact that Montell Griffin wasn't the fighter people thought he might have been. We learnt after the fact that B-Hop was much better than we realised when Jones Jr beat him.

I still have Jones Jr winning a fight in say 1999-2001, but I don't have him dominating Joe. Joe has many of the tools that Tarver used to rough up Jones Jr and as we've seen, Joe has an ability like Floyd Mayweather to adapt and win the fight even if he's starting slow.

 

Um, Hopkins, James Toney are a couple that come to mind who would've blasted Joe in their prime also.

 

80% Jones?Meaning the same Jones that couldn't ko completely shot former welter Felix Trinidad 23 pounds above Trinidad's prime weight?Or the same Jones that was completely obliterated by Tarver and Johnson years before JC and Jones fought?Or the same Jones that Calzaghe admitted that Jones was shot and an unworthy opponent because he was shot and that Calzaghe would never fight him because he was shot as written by Joe years before they fought?Wow.Jones must have been completely useless even in his prime according to this logic because he got beaten by 2 fellows not considered to be close to JC in the pecking order YEARS before JC got ahold of him.That's the best conclusion we can make according to all that is said here and what happened.

 

Prime Calzaghe would, IMO, have beaten any version of Hopkins or Toney at 168.


Prime Roy would, IMO, have clearly beaten Joe at 168 or 175.

But it wouldn't have been a walkover.

 

You mother****ers refuse to let iit go.