Roy Jones that beat Montell Griffin vs Calzaghe

THAT roy jones beats any light heavyweight ever not named spinks, charles or foster.

 

Anyone who thinks Spinks vs Jones Jr is a win for Spinks makes me laugh. Spinks was a seriously good fighter but not against a quick, power punching guy. Take away the intimidation factor of Tyson against Spinks, you've still got the same issue, a guy with ridiculous head movement, speed and power coming at him - and at 175, those punches would feel every bit as powerful as Tysons did when Spinks was bigger.

As for Charles/Foster - don't bring the old timers into the debate, anyone logical realises why they lose to the new fighters.

I think Calzaghe has a style which will confound Roy. It would be the first time Roy was facing something that he put onto every fighter he faced, a very unorthodox style, one you couldn't train for and one which, unlike Jones Jr, was able to carry Calzaghe past his physical prime and still rack up wins against very talented fighters.

I don't think it's cut and dry, this coming from an RJJ fan who believes he beats anyone from 160-175 all time, including Joe Calzaghe. But in saying that, It would not surprise me if Calzaghe from 1998-2001 was able to beat the 1998-2001 version of Jones Jr.

1994-1997 Jones Jr? ****ing untouchable for anyone of the day.

 

he acually cought him with his wrist he didnt even hit him with his glove and joe still took it well and the last thing a boxer loses is his power im not saying calzaghe would beat jones in his prime but its not a fact that jones would win cos jones was made to l0ook good against most of his opponents in his prime and never thought any 1 quite like calzaghe

 

so in conclusion you think calzaghe stood a BETTER chance than charles and foster? They were the best light heavy and hardest hitting light heavy ever respectively and they stood less of a shot than CALZAGHE:shock:. Jones H2H at 168-175 is probably the best ever but i have to admit charles likely beats him, foster has a great chance but calzaghe still needs to stand on a stool to kiss his ass

 

Welcome to the notion that styles make fights...

 

exactly! spinks style-would trouble jones. foster's style-would trouble jones. charles' style-would be a nightmare for jones.

calzaghe's style-wouldn't last 3 rounds

thanks for bringing that up:good glad someone on here understands that concept

 

It's not me you're arguing with, it's PugilisticPower.

Congratulations on now acknowledging the concept. Unfortunately, your analysis is markedly less convincing than his...

 

Joe "outworks" Roy.






Then wakes up. Then gets embarrassed by a far faster, far more powerful, and simply far far better all-round fighter.

 

Your posts have been stunningly and consistently void of analysis in their entirety, so I really don't think you should go there, you rotten-toothed ballbag.

 

Irony?

 

Sure, dude.

 

****, Kessler would rip the **** out of Charles and Foster. I'd put money on most of the LHW of the last 5 years to rip the **** out of Charles and Foster. Older does NOT mean better, go review footage.

Fighters are faster, stronger, more explosive and more prepared now than ever. They train for fights once every 3-6 months and have gameplans tuned around their particular fighters. The older era cannot go near it.

Calzaghe being of this era, has all the hall marks of a guy that would trouble anyone H2H.

Awkward style, check.
Iron chin, check.
Iron resolve, check.
Decent power in his prime, check.
Stamina, check.
Southpaw, check.
Adaptable, check.

And I honestly think in his prime, unless you bought things to the table that were more than the orthodox, Jones Jr wouldn't struggle with anyone.

 

Find me fighters of this era who have many actual KO's.
Ref's wave off fights when fighters are about to get hurt.
In Joe's case, with the exception of Manfredo - was any fight waved off early?
And in the case of Manfredo, he was about to get hit and hit frequently, the guy wanted no part of that.

 

1)charles era fighters fought every 2 months.

2)iron chin is NOT getting knocked down in the first round by two way past their prime fighters

3)past veit-sub par power

Conclusion: Calzaghe was awkward but NOT special

Question: what charles fights have you seen? what foster fights have you seen? I have argued before VIOLENTLY that older fighters should not be given credit just for being older. i know a **** load about these fighters, i've analyzed them entensively, as i have jones. THAT is why i picked them. have you? Have you actually analyzed these fighters?

 

You mean the Roy Jones that had Montell Griffin trying to do crunches on the canvas!?

RJJ by late TKO!!!!!!!!