Manny Steward: Floyd is not great

He had some prety good things to say about Floyd during the Marquez fight... but whatever, I take most of what Manny says when he's commentating with a pinch of salt. He's always changing his mind about one thing or another. He sometimes declares a fight over about 3 times during a single fight... and at the end he still has the gall to say things such as, "This fight went exactly as I predicted." :roll:

Sure Manny, whatever you say.

 

He's right though, Floyd's skills are great but he has to consistantly face top opposition to be considered great from a legacy standpoint.

 

As always Manny Stewart talks out of his ass.

 

Great skills, good resume.

 

It's possible to criticize anyone's resume. There is always something you can criticize about. It's absolutely ridiculous to say Floyd isn't great because of his recent opposition when it's almost identical to Pacquiao's recent opposition. Floyd has had some soft touch in the last couple of years but so did Pacquiao.

The bottom line is they are both great.

 

He is hardly wrong with what he says about Floyd

 

Manny knows as much as anyone that Floyd is technically a masterclass boxer. But greatness is something you have to define. There's technically great, then there's the type of greatness Ray Robinson showed in fighting hundreds of times, around the world, from welterweight to light heavyweight, etc. Floyd doesn't care about that kind of greatness. He cares about money and fame and his 0. So, no. I wouldn't put him on par with Leonard or Robinson or Armstrong or Pep or Duran, etc....

 

Correctomundo.

 

Well, following that logic I guess nobody will ever be great again. Because no fighter active today fits those criteria.

 

I didn't say you needed to fight hundreds of times to be great. All I'm saying is the type of diligence guys like Robinson had in keeping with taking real risks and challenges and fighting every type of fighter, and largely being successful, is a different type of greatness than just being technically skilled at the highest level. I also didn't say that I don't personally think Mayweather is great, only that I wouldn't put him up with the types of guys Manny is mentioning. So that's not the logic I'm following at all- That to be called great Mayweather would have to do all the things I mentioned Robinson did. I sure as hell wasn't implying that, as that would be ridiculous. I'm just discussing the meaning I take away from Manny's comments.

 

Fair enough. :good

 

Manny blows hot and cold. Sometimes he seems fairly astute and perceptive. Other times ....... :-(

 

Nobody's comparing him to Leonard or Robinson, but he's arguably a top 35/40 fighter of all-time. You gotta have him in the top 100 anyway, and in a sport with so many fighters, you've gotta consider the top 100 guys to be great.