David Haye vs Niko Valuev

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  1. Spud565

    Spud565 Active Member Full Member

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    Watch Barrett/Valuev. Barrett kept throwing the overhand right and it almost damn near lands every time, just lacks accuracy.
    Dave will get in a few rounds boxing Valuevs ears off with lots of lateral movement, in and out of range throwing clusters. Then he'll start looking for his bread and butter punch which Barrett kept on throwing, that overhand right. When he realises he can land it almost at will, its all he'll throw. It may ruin his fight, but it could also end in a KO!
     
  2. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Valuev seems to have a very solid chin, though I've often been at pains to point out that he hasn't really been in there with genuine heavyweight punchers. McCline was the best, but that fight only went 3 rounds due to the freak ankle injury.

    Now, I don't think Haye is the heaviest heavyweight puncher around but I do think he packs a genuine whallop, so it'll be interesting to see how Valuev reacts. It's not like it'll be a one-shot kayo but Haye has the speed advantage to land lots of shots and that could wear Valuev down.

    Haye can't afford to stay in the clinch, Valuev is too big and heavy and it'll drain him. A stick 'n' move job, while keeping sharp for counter opportunities, would seem the best idea to me and in that respect I think a Haye UD seems more likely.

    So long as Haye can handle the height and reach difficulties alright, that's my call, Haye UD.
     
  3. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    I voted Haye to KO Valuev but I see a stoppage happening.
     
  4. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    good old mills

    "lets get it on" :****"i'm firm but fair"
     
  5. Blueboy

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    Haye to outbox and out work Valuev - probably ending in a one-sided points victory I reckon. Whether or not he'll be able to stop the 'Beast' remains to be seen, I certainly hope so though.

    Any more news on the undercard for this one?
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    no news on the undercard (apart from the insomnia cure) or the vanue yet
     
  7. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably Haye on points.

    But I'm gonna be a wishful thinker and go for the Haye stoppage. :D
     
  8. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When can I look forward to your next fight, Dubby? I'll come and watch you as you sound brilliant from behind that keyboard:good.
     
  9. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Nazi alert!
     
  10. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    it looks like it might be nuremburg don't take my word for it though
     
  11. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    not to long to go now, anyone change they're pick? because i'm starting to have doubts.

    Watching that workout today just reminded again just why i've never taken to Haye and how poor he is technically, its just his mindset that doesn't sit well with me, he's like Junior Witter in the sense that he has the mindset of Tyson without the attributes.

    Haye worries me, he just throws to many Hayemakers, every shot is wild and wide, he trys to bumb you out with everything, a very poor set up and just to damn reckless. I'm still picking Haye to win but i'm not as sure i was when this was announced.
     
  12. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    I understand your concerns Slip because i have same feelings but i still believe he will lift the WBA Heavyweight title come November. I just feel this fight is what he needs a fight where he knows he gotta be on the ball all fight and is up against it...Haye loves this type stuff. I also think tacitcally it's his fight but in saying that my two worry's are gassing after a onslaught or having a split second of recklessness and getting caught like in the Barrett fight. See even talking in one post im contradicting myself on Haye...he definatley makes you think :lol:
     
  13. cubex

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    Haye UD.

    No way he KOs him.
     
  14. Kid Lucky

    Kid Lucky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm struggling to imagine Haye winning this over there. Don't think he stops him and don't think that he can win on points by saving his energy coming in and out. Also I worry about the physical strength of Haye inside, Barratt looked to have the better of that in his only relevant HW fight. Going for Valuev on points.
     
  15. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    You're right Mandanda, i'm probabily just looking too much into Haye's weaknesses and not seeing this fight is made for him, especially when we see Valuev's limitations.

    You've convinced me, i'm back to Haye winning this fight rather easily from about the 3rd or 4th on. Hairy Big Foot has waaay more flaws then Haye and the German venue can't help him out this time. That boat already sailed with the Evander gift so hopefully the commission will sharpen their pencils on the judging this time around. David will just beat Lord of the Rings to the punch in the center, mix in some hooks and body work off the straights, reset with some lateral movement and take a lopsided UD to bring that strap back to England.

    I guess i was just searching for a little reassurance. :good