Should the UFC adopt Pride scoring system?

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  1. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Can you in detail lay out the differences?
     
  3. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/whats_rules.htm


    Decision
    If the match goes the distance, then the outcome of the bout is determined by the three judges. A decision is made according to the following: the effort made to finish the fight via KO or submission, damage given to the opponent, standing combinations & ground control, aggressiveness and weight (in the case that the weight difference is 10kg/22lbs or more). The above criteria are listed according to priority. The fight is scored in its entirety and not round by round. After the third round, each judge must decide a winner. Matches cannot end in a draw.
     
  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I think they may be too influenced by the last round and not weigh the early rounds as heavy.
     
  5. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    The difference is that in Pride, rounds are not scored individually. If it goes to decision, the judges score the fight as a whole based on certain criteria.

    1. The effort made to finish the fight via KO or submission.

    2. Damage to opponent.

    3. Standing combinations & ground control.

    4. Aggressiveness.

    (Points are given in correspondance to importance - #1 is given more weight than #4).

    So, there's no ten point must system in play in Pride scoring.

    Also, if a fighter stalls on the ground without advancing position or attempting to fight, the ref can yellow card him (like in soccer) and three yellow cards means a disqualification; so active ground work is encouraged.
     
  6. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    Isn't no.1 a fancy way of saying no.4?
     
  7. Nah, you can't score on Pride alone, you must score on punches landed, aggression, things like that.
     
  8. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't think so, I think 'aggressiveness' is overrated anyway. But there is definitely too much room for interpretation in scoring as is.
     
  9. Weber

    Weber Active Member Full Member

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    They had the better fights, that's for damn sure.
     
  10. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the UFCs system is fine just judges cant do their job.
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Pride judges judged a fight as an entirety, not round by round.

    For eg. in a 3 round fight, one fighter can edge the 1st 2 rds by the skin of his teeth, were under UFC rules, the guy that is 2-0 down despite doing just about as well as his opponent would then need a KO or submission in the 3rd round to win..... In Pride, the rounds are only there for the fighters to have the rest they deserve, if the same circumstances above happened in Pride, the man that narrowly lost the 1st 2 rds could go out & win the 3rd rd clearly without KOing or subbing his opponent & he would DESERVEDLY win the fight because as an ENTIRETY, he got the better of it.

    Ps. If the judges score an even fight in Pride, they have an extra 5 mins in which both men must go out & win the fight, its like a final 5 minute sudden death, great stuff, cuts out negative fighting too, at least in that round (tho cant remember if that extra rd thing is only for title fights or for all fights)

    Pride rules were the best, bring back head stomps too.

    :good
     
  12. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pride rules were ****, hence nobody uses them. They just had the best fighters for a while.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    That doesn't look like a great set of rules from Pride. Pride had those rules because it's a blood thirsty organisations. We can't have that sort of approach in UK, America etc It would ruin the image of MMA. A technical image is much better.

    Pride was scary with the kicking on the ground, yellow cards for not fighting hard etc

    MOTHER****ING WANDERLEI GOT A YELLOW CARD!!! THAT'S ****ED UP.
     
  14. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the hell is it overrated? If Shogun wasn't aggressive in that fight they'd both stay on their side of the octagon. Shogun made this boring fight somewhat entertaining.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Pride rules were closer to real fighting than UFC rules - that was the goal of the UFC when it 1st began, to see what style was the best in real fights.... OK, everybody cross trains now but we still call the top guys the best FIGHTERS in the world & there is no reason to think the sport cant be both brutal (head stomps etc) & artistic.
    Its brutal without head kicks & stomps so why not let it happen in UFC ? Its more realistic & guys like Shogun & Wanderlei must feel like a fish out of water when unable to finish a man with their favourite move, they grew up fighting in `Vale Tudo` (Portuguese for `no rules`), the more rules you apply, the more it takes away from the REAL fighters & the advantage goes to the guys that like to stall ****, the boring ****s.

    JMO :good