***The Official Golota Express! Bowe-Golota II - 19 years ago today***

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  1. Hoax976

    Hoax976 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was watching Golota-Grant recently. This was Golota's very last fight during his physical prime. Watching that old Golota stiff jab is something special. It's weird how this fight was 10 years ago almost to the day (Nov.'99) and Golota has been fighting for ten years with a jacked left arm (even though he took off a few after Tyson).
     
  2. Hoax976

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    There is nothing like the intense build up and excitment during the week of a Golota fight.

    There simply is no substitute. :smoke

    I will miss this the most. Coming here on G-Express and sharing our enthusiasm before the fight.
     
  3. The Foul Pole

    The Foul Pole Active Member Full Member

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    You said it! :good
    I'm just mad that i discovered Golota Express so late - April 2009, but bettter late than never.
     
  4. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is that recent photo of you and Andrew?
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  5. The Foul Pole

    The Foul Pole Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
    Unfortunately i've never met him.
     
  6. Hoax976

    Hoax976 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, much better late than never.:good

    Before the G-Express, there was the Ultimate Golota Homepage. I joined that site around '97 just after he lost to Lewis. It was essentially shut down after the Tyson sham. Golota retired for a few years and I never thought I'd hear from him again. Then I stumbled apon this site sometime in 2003. One of hte first posts I read was about Golota coming back to boxing and I was shocked. Then this thread was created shortly after and the rest is history.

    This thread has taken on a life of it's own and should be preserved. I'm sure we'll hear what nutjob Golota is up to as the years go by. If anything it'll be good for wacky photos of him.
     
  7. The Foul Pole

    The Foul Pole Active Member Full Member

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    But what happened with previous G-Express 2003-2005? Is there any archive where i can read some posts from Express when Golota was fighting for the belts?
     
  8. Hoax976

    Hoax976 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If I recall correctly, ESB crashed a couple of times and the G-Express had to resurect itself.



    Hey Rums, when did you first create the G-Express? 2003, no?
     
  9. LeoricBox

    LeoricBox New Member Full Member

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    I definitely noticed that too.
     
  10. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    Did you watch your fight with Tomasz Adamek?
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    No, and I probably won’t. What’s to watch? We know how it all looked. The result won’t change.

    There’s no person who saw you fight in Lodz who won’t ask, Why did it look this way, what happened to Andrew? Do you know?
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    I don’t know. In the locker room I was the champion of the world. I was boxing in my head and did 3 rounds and I tell you I was like a champion. Move, punch, combinations. But it all ended in there.

    Why? You knew that Adamek was going to be fast, you knew you’d have to be tactical as to how to handle this.
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    I don’t know. I already told you I don’t know. I lost because I was unable to concentrate because I was thinking about the first round when he cut my brow and it hurt so much. Really, it was some kind of a sucker cut where the blood wasn’t flowing and my vision wasn’t obstructed, but the pain was out of this world.

    When you won in Madison Square Garden in January 2008 with Mike Mollo, the whole world saw photos of your swelling practically closing up your eye. In comparison to the cut you got in Lodz it seemed to be very minimal.
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    What happened in New York I didn’t even feel. The fact is I couldn’t see much but I had no pain. Here it was the opposite. Looked like nothing but my head felt like it was exploding. So go figure. This is why I was so unfocused. As I was moving around the ring all I could think of is the pain. You can’t fight like this with anybody, and definitely not with someone who is faster. Not once did Adamek hit me in that same spot again, but the pain was constant.

    To me it seemed like this was your most dramatic fight. It wasn’t one punch like with Lamon Brewster or Lennox Lewis. In Lodz twice you were on the canvas. Adamek delivered over 100 more punches. You weren’t the Andrew Golota that we all remember.
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    Do you have to remind me? Twice I was down after the knockdown? And not once?

    You were counted in the first round and fifth round…
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    The first knockdown I didn’t even feel, I’m telling you – absolutely nothing, no power. It was more like I lost my balance because it was slippery, and he also pushed me. I got up right away, nothing happened. But that cut on my brow, the pain. The knockdown in the fifth I don’t remember.

    Right after the fight you were complaining again about your left arm, you were taking care of matters related to your insurance policy.
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    Something is up with it again. Better to be prepared for everything.

    Did you read the open letter from Adamek?
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    No. About what?

    About your matters outside of sports (I’m reading the bigger fragments of the letter to Andrew). Will you reconcile with him?
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    I’ll think about this.

    Does Tomasz Adamek have any chances for bigger fights, for the heavyweight title?
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    He has no chance. Just because he beat me the way “I was” in Lodz didn’t do anything for him.
     
  11. Hoax976

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    It will be interesting to see if Adamek can really make an impact at HW. So far he's looking like the next champion, but I'm not sold yet. He never caught any clean punches by Golota. I still think he'll get killed by Wlad or Vitali, but maybe I'm wrong. Beating a 42 year old corpse with gimp left arm doesnt prove much.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

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    That is amazing.

    People will tend to write Golota off, because most people 10-20-50 years down the road won't be aware of the injury. They will see a choke artist who always lost when he stepped up in competition, and the more time passes, people will just assume Bowe was washed up and that was why Golota looked good against him.

    I still think his life story, in and out of the ring, makes a fantastic movie. The anti-Rocky, Andrew Golota!

    :smoke
     
  13. Rumsfeld

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    Yeah, I definitely created it in 2003. Before he fought Brian Nix.

    I think that's when I started saying "Golota may be past his physical prime, but he is only just entering his mental prime. Golota's best days are still ahead!"

    :lol:

    But I kind of believed that at the time, and you know what? Whatever the official scorecards were on Byrd and Ruiz, he arguably beat them, and the Byrd fight alone acted as redemption for the Tyson debacle.

    Golota never quit after that. He beat Nix and T. Lewis, he was robbed on decisions against Byrd & Ruiz. He was then clobbered by Brewster, but he NEVER QUIT. He kept getting up, and appeared to want to continue.

    Wins over McBride and Mollo showed that he could overcome adversity, even if it was when he was way past his best.

    It is a shame that Golota was never able to peak mentally when he still had a lot to offer in terms of athleticism and skills. Even a way past it Golota did well against two title holders who had multiple defenses under their belts.

    Anyway, the original Golota Express was started before the Nix fight. For those of you with really good memories, it was the FIRST Express in ESB history. After the Golota Express, all types of immitation "Expresses" followed suit.

    :deal

    And I'm almost certain the Golota Express was destroyed in two separate crashes. Had we been able to combine the previous versions of the Express (including hundreds if not thousands of posts that were lost from people being banned who were active in this Express) it would easily be the biggest thread in the General.

    Also, if you recall, there was a Golota KO2 Ruiz Express that was almost half as big as the Golota Express at that time.

    :lol:
     
  14. popejking

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    Yes, I agree. Even his outside ring life. He came to USA, not to spend some years in jail in Poland. After few years, when he became hero in USA and Poland, polish president Kwasniewski gave him a letter of safe conduct. Then Golota paid 100000$ on the account fo the Kwasniewski's wife foundation. And this what he made in the ring was so amazing. He lost almost every important battle in the ring. But he made millions of $ and he invested the money very well, so he is now a very reach person.

    Whats more, he fought 4 times for championship belt, each time it was another federation: WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO. It shows how high-ranked boxer he was during his career.
     
  15. Stinky gloves

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    Not mentioning the huge "I hate Golota Express" or something created by Domngo or someone like him.
    That was almost as big as the Official Golota Express, but is shows Golota brings all the possible emotions. :D