All time top 20 lists?

1 Suhar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Muhammed Ali
4 Harry Greb
5 Sam Langford
6 Joe Louis
7 Ray Learnard
8 Roberto Duran
9 Pernel Whitaker
10 Carlos Monzon
11 Benny Learnard
12 Willie Pep
13 Rocky Marciano
14 Jack Dempsey
15 Jack Johnson
16 Marvin Hagler
17 Stanley Ketchel
18 Julio ceasar Chavez
19 Alexis Arguello
20 Jake la Motta

 

Jake La motta? :huh How come.

 

personal preference probably.....thats why i suck at making these lists

 

I look at like this i regard robinson as the best ever la motta tuck his unbeaten record and had a 6 fight series with him, in which 3 of them could of went either way, i also rank marcel cerdan as one of europe's best ever fighters only behind jimmy wilde, la motta beat marcel for the title, also with wins over other all time greats such holman williams, loyd marshal and zivic. Plus la motta should of been champion years before he got the title, he was past his prime when he won the title just goes to show how good he was, back when there was only one title

 

The guy in your avator use to say la motta was the best, jake says it was the biggest complament he ever got when marciano said that

 

sugar ray leonard? How come?

 

#1 Sam Langford
#2 Harry Greb
#3 Sugar Ray Robinson
#4 Henry Armstrong
#5 Ezzard Charles
#6 Roberto Duran
#7 Willie Pep
#8 Benny Leonard
#9 Mickey Walker
#10 Bob Fitzsimmons
#11 Muhammad Ali
#12 Archie Moore
#13 Joe Gans
#14 Sugar Ray Leonard
#15 Barney Ross
#16 Joe Louis
#17 Charley Burley
#18 Pernell Whitaker
#19 Gene Tunney
#20 Barbados Joe

I don't have one saved anywhere, so this is a rough idea.

 

well beating hearns, benitez, duran, hagler and being a 5 weight world champion should answer that

 

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Sam Langford
5. Joe Walcott
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Benny Leonard
9. Willie Pep
10. Mickey Walker
11. Archie Moore
12. Roberto Duran
13. Pernell Whitaker
14. Gene Tunney
15. Barney Ross
16. Joe Louis
17. Alexis Arguello
18. Muhammad Ali
19. Rocky Marciano
20. Sugar Ray Leonard

 

Hearns was weight drained (and undefeated at 147), Benitez didn't train (undefeated at 147), Duran didn't train (first time he had been stopped), and Hagler was shot (coming off knocking out undefeated john Mugabi and undefeated for 11 years)

 

Terry Norris beat his arse though.

That is all.

 

are we really questioning sugar ray leonards greatness now? thats a little ridiculous