Donald Curry - Retrospective

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Between 1982-1986, Donald Curry was considered one of the best fighters on the planet. He had beaten prime Marlon Starling twice, and unified the IBF, WBA, and WBC Welterweight titles in destroying unbeaten Milton McCrory with a single shot to the jaw. By the time he ran into Britain's Llyod Honeyghan, he was apparently having trouble making the Welterweight limit and lost in one of the biggest upsets in Boxing history. He'd move up, but he would never be the same again.

    Did Donald Curry achieve enough in that short period of time to be considered an All-time great. I think two wins over Marlon Starling, the devastating knockout over unbeaten WBC champion McCory, in addition to unifying every major belt at 147lbs remains impressive. Where does Curry rank as far as H2H goes at 147lbs, and we're all in agreement that a prime Curry would have beaten Honeyghan decisively?
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Even after Honeyghan, he was IMO well on his way to beating a just about prime McCallum either by comfortable decision or even late TKO, until he was infamously caught with his hands at his hips. That's where I mark his decline's start...although Aquino was a good win. So I think his prime can be said to extend into his early 154 days, but perhaps that move ought to have been made before he fought Lloyd.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If it had happened in the 10th or 11th, perhaps I'd see it that way myself. It was still early in the fight, who knows what would have transpired had the shot not landed. Curry looked pretty good early on against Nunn also, but then his legs started to deteriorate and he was stopped.
     
  4. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Curry is great as long as it's against fighters he can control the pace against or other technical fighters that are looking to fight a "clean" classic boxing kind of fight.

    Akward aggressive fighters, swarmers and top notch sluggers...not so much.Other A level technical boxer-punchers that have no problem dragging things into a slugfest would give him serious issues as well of course.

    An excellent fighter and great boxer-puncher, but all thngs considered he falls short of being an all-timer in my eyes.Too susceptible to being knocked off-kilter by less talented fighters.
     
  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Curry wasn't just struggling with the weight by the time he fought Honeyghan, he was battling the scales over 2 1/2 years earlier when he fought Colin Jones in Birmingham. Thats not just a hunch on my behalf, as it's been well documented he was struggling with the weight for the Jones fight.

    Rumour has it that Curry was actually battling the scales as far back as 1982. Source? A KO magazine, who reviewed the aftermath of Curry's problems with his manager and his weight problems after the Honeyghan fight.

    Curry was advised by Dave Gorman to move up after he beat McCrory, then against after he beat Rodriguez in early 1986. Curry plainly refused as he had just became the undisputed welterweight champion and enjoyed the distinction of being one of only two undisupted champions in boxing at the time. The other was of course, Marvin Hagler.

    Gorman was also against Curry moving his training camp for the Honeyghan fight. He trained in a very hot climiate, which Gorman was against as he thought humid conditions sapped a fighters strength. Curry was meant to be taking potassium pills to help him make the weight but he wasn't taking them for the Honeyghan fight.

    Curry was stubborn on giving up his undisputed welterweight crown for too long. It eventually caught up with him.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Thanks for that, Robbi. :good

    Do you believe Honeyghan beat Curry as a result of the weight issues, or was it just a bad stylistic match-up?
     
  7. GazOC

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    good post Robbi!!
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    A bit of both. Curry also changed his surroundings leading up to the Honeyghan fight. Gorman had the opinion that fighters aren't used to change and are creatures of habit. He wasn't doing things right during camp like taking his potassium pills, etc. Gorman left camp and was told not not return until the night of the fight. He did work the corner but wasn't happy with Curry's preperation leading up to the fight.

    Curry had problems making the weight effectively, had out of the ring problems with his manager and of course had a terrible style to deal with when he faced Honeyghan.
     
  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I remember potassium pills getting mentioned at the time. What is it they do?
     
  10. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    Low potassium levels cause fast fatigue, muscle weakness and cramping.

    They're for fighters, to insure in the dropping of weight, that they don't water drain the muscles and leave them susceptible to the above mentioned symptoms.
     
  11. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Honeygan smoked Curry's boots...:yep
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    ...Fantastic input. It's like me saying Marlon Starling smoked Honeyghan's boots. Not very informative.
     
  13. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Curry should be in the H.O.F. based on his welter reign and his ABC 154 lb. title capture........... Did Ol' D.C. hang on too long? YES!! But between '83 to '88, his career is worthy enough of induction............ Christ, Pipino Cuevas is in for cryin' out loud........... Curry's reign surely equates to Cuevas' 147 lb. title reign............ WTF?

    MR.BILL:deal:bbb
     
  14. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    His "peak" was too brief, and outside of McCrory, he lost most of his biggest fights.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Outside of McCrory and Starling, he lost most of his biggest fights. Like Oscar, outside of Vargas and Quartey.