Hopkins is the greatest fighter of this time!!!!

God, I didn't say Woods Ko'ed Johnson, i said Woods even beat him, Woods is a C class fighter at best, so who cares, liek Johnson is a big name to shout aboutatsch

Look, Hopkins fought and lost to Taylor twice, because, he wasn't as good as he is now.

Pavlik smashed Taylor twice, because he is better than Taylor.

Hopkins improved as a fighter, and smashed Pavlik, proving he is better than he used to be by claiming two scalps with one fight, in beating Pavlik he proved he could also now beat taylor, hence his evolution.

Prior to Pavlik, all he did was beat up on journeymen and blwon up ww's, he should be proud anyway, winning 3 rounds against a blown up shot calzaghe was the best he could have ever managed, a prime Joe would win every round.

Hopkins P4P 3 in the world right now, but for Mayweather and Pac ( 2 ATG 100 greats! one off talents ) he would be the worlds best as recognised by Ring magazine, that says it all.

 

You can't spell and I am the idiot? lmao irony.

 

Wow, why would he fight someone he smashed to pieces for 9 rounds? if it were close, then sure, a rematch, but the way he won, wtf is the point? he wanted RJJ who was better anyway.

Seriously, try watching boxing, you may like the sport... noob.

 

:rofl

 

Do you honestly believe JC smashed Hopkins to pieces....seriously?

And your telling people they don't know anything about boxing!!!

I had JC winning on workrate but it was a horrible ugly match up. Could've went either way.
The reason there was no rematch was probably because as mentioned earlier,it was a **** fight and also Hopkins acted like a complete ass pre fight.

 

Not yet. Wait for Pac and Floyd (only because they still have some good
years ahead of them) to also finish their careers, then we can make a
better choice.....

Oh also dont forget DLH and RJJ as they make a legit claim on that....

 

At middleweight,Johnson was something to shout about-32-0,going into the Hopkins bout.Claiming 2 scalps-including Taylor to whom he lost TWICE?You are so wrong that you have no idea what you are talking about.How can a fellow that was beaten TWICE by someone somehow claim his scalp because he beat someone that beat him?Your logic is non-existent.Hopkins #3 p4p in the world now?He hasn't fought since he beat Pavlik which is OVER A YEAR AGO.How the **** can someone be #3 p4p when he has beaten NO ONE in his present weightclass in what 2-3 years?I need whatever you are smoking.Whatever you are on,it's working,because logic and intelligence aren't working for you.Honestly and intelligently,think about this if you are able,because all indications are that you don't have it in you.Does beating limited Kelly Pavlik 10 pounds over Pavlik's natural weight OVER A YEAR AGO put Bernard Hopkins in his prime?Since when does beating Kelly Pavlik at lightheavyweight(10 pounds over his best weight)work?lack of intelligence and reason are screaming though everyone's computer screen.And by the way,since when does beating Kelly Pavlik(even 10 pounds over Kelly's weight) put anyone in the top 3-or even top 10 p4p list?Since when is Pavlik that good-ESPECIALLY AT LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT?You clearly do not have a cluewhat the **** you are talking about.

 

a great fighter indeed but his inactivity prevents him being the best imo

 

He is one of the best, but not the best.

 

Clearly not.

However he is a very intelligent fighter. One of the most knowledable about boxing if not the most knowledgable.

However he does not have the stamina of a Calzaghe etc.
He does not have the power of an Abraham etc.
He does not have the speed of a Dirrell, Pacman, Ward etc.
and so on..

But he does know his boxing...

 

To be the best of your time period, you dont need to have the most stamina. You dont have to be the biggest puncher. You dont have to be the fastest.

Knowledge is only part of Hopkins forte'. His defense, timing, ring intellect, ring generalship, use of angles, footwork, balance, variety of offense, composite punching, movement (especially lateral and change of direction), accuracy, counterpunching ability, chin, etc. are all among not only the best in the sport today, but among the very best ever. And a prime Hopkins DID have tremendous stamina (not to the level of a Calzaghe or Williams), did have thudding power (not to the level of a Abraham or Hamed) and did have tremendous handspeed (not to the level of a Jones or Floyd)...but that was again, a PRIME Hopkins...not the version we are seeing today, who has become more of a cerebral fighter.

Is he the best of his era? I say no, behind Jones still...but is there an arguement to be made? Of course there is.

 

he's definitely up there.

 

Calzaghe's wins over Jones & Hopkins were at the tail of their careers after both men had faded enough to start losing fights. Jones had back to back knockout losses before facing calslappy. Hopkins had been showing his age for years.

Calzaghe's best wins were kessler (which was a pretty good win) and Jeff Lacy (which, in hindsight was not that great). Other than that what was so impressive about him?

 

Is this a wind-up thread...?

Hopkins... PLEASE! GOAT!? You have to be drunk!

 

Should Pavlik hang them up then after losing to and over the hill bum?