Manny Pacquiao: Has he really moved up and fought the best as fans say?

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  1. Partaxian

    Partaxian Active Member Full Member

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    No. Go back in time, at the time Ledwaba was considered top 15 p4p, borderline top 10. Infact some websites had him installed bottom of top 10.
     
  2. snipe200

    snipe200 Active Member Full Member

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    Go head and Pac's can be nitpicked even worse, Jones beat a prime Toney, Hopkins a prime Trinidad, Toney beat McCallum and Nunn(both prime). Who Pac beat of that caliber that was absolutely prime outside of Barrera(disputably prime)?
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    why is it mostly floyd fans who nitpick pac's resume? as if it would make floyd greater all of a sudden? if floyd is doing what pac is doing right now (fighting an elite welter), people would respect floyd more. floyd fans must understand this and stop nitpicking resumes of floyd's perceived rivals.
     
  4. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    @122 after pac beat ledwaba(2weeks notice), he fought julio as a tune up fight for his next fight which was supposedly paulie ayala, but pac wants barrera instead...now, who you think is more tougher fight? fighting ayala at a div where pac has already 2 fights or fighting 1div up for the first time against the p4p#3?

    @135 It doesnt matter, there was no LW at that time who could give pac a fight, and haters will still have excuses..

    casa - old past prime
    Nate - old past prime
    J.Diaz - B-level who lost to grand pa nate
    Katsidis - B-level fighter who lost to grand pa casa

    the only fighter who could give pac a fight was guzman, but he cant make 135lbs against nate...so how you want to spin it, pac just cant get enough credit...

    @147 let me ask you this, which was a tougher fight, fighting a LW or moving up 2div to fight DLH? And remember no one expected DLH to be weight drained since his last fight was only 3lbs north of 147lbs, it was only @ fight night that everyone knows DLH was weight drained including roach...

    bottom line, pac wasnt looking for easy fights!!!:deal
     
  5. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    The worse comeback of the year:deal
    :lol:
     
  6. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In your opinion.
     
  7. Tszyu

    Tszyu Active Member Full Member

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    Pac has the best resume of the decade, Hopkins resume is great too and I can see people picking his.
    Jones beat no-one, a green hopkins, weight drained Toney and who else?
     
  8. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He still didnt fight the best at 122 and 135 bottom line you cant dispute it....David Diaz was barely top 5...he beat a washed up Barrera and Morales so what the difference when you have to consider Casamayor was the Ring Champion, Juan Diaz was a young undefeated 2 belt titlist, and Nate Campbell was better than Diaz too get of Pac-Mans dick man.....DLH shouldnt even have been in a ring. You *******S ARE RIDICULOUS
     
  9. horst

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    Mayweather has a better resume? Fail.

    Thomas Hearns's resume is from the last 20 years? Fail.

    Instead of pissing around with coloured fonts, go do some research. You're failing miserably with this hate-filled BS.
     
  10. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ....FAR MORE THAN PAC-MAN....Virgil Hill, Jorge Vaca, Jorge Castro, Vinny Pazienza, Lou Del Valle, Reggie Johnson, Antonio Tarver, Jeff Lacy, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin, Felix Trinidad, John Ruiz, and Eric Lucas.....You guys really dont know much about boxing....bet you guys only follow one or two fighters and call yourself fans....Im a fan of the sport first and certain fighters last
     
  11. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im a hater cuz I dont suck Pac-Mans dick like you....this is exactly why I dont come on here because of idiots like you who dont read a post before making a damn comment. Im a fan of boxing, not a fan boy like you....I like Pacquaio but you dudes really pump him up too much......

    Mayweather does have a better resume.....He dominated his first division(which Pac-Man has never done):patsch and will do down as top 3 at junior-lightweight...descisively defeated his closest rival and closest fights with Castillo(which Pac-Man aint done what up Marquez:patsch), has defeated 12 world champions(more than pacquiao):patsch one current and at least 4-5 future hall of famers(more than Pac-Man):patsch.....and has stayed undefeated in the process.:good

    How is his resume better.....all of Floyd's best wins were over prime champions whereas Pac-Man fought all washed up greats for his best wins...how impressive!!!!
     
  12. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    yes, he did not beat the best @122lbs and 135lbs because he move up to fight a much tougher fight....you cant dispute that either...:deal

    he beat a prime barrera in their first fight and a little bit past prime morales in their 2nd fight when pac was still a nobody, not prime, one-dimensional fighter...you cant dispute that either...:deal

    if pac dominates, w/c we think is a big possibility, JD casa or nate, would you give pac credit??? NO....Thats why, it doesnt matter...you cant dispute that either...:deal

    I know, you know, that you're a hater and just love riding floyd's dick...you discredit pacs resume but applauds floyd?That's f*ckin hillarious...you cant dispute that either!!!:deal
     
  13. Tszyu

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    Roy Jones is my favourite fighter of all time, but his resume is not better then Hopkins, DLH, Pac's and many more.

    Vinny was way past it and came back from a broken neck, Virgil Hill after her lost in Germany, Vaca was waaaaaaaaaaay past it, Castro too, R Johnson was not very good, McCallum was very old, Trinidad shot, Eric Lucas (lol), Griffin B level.
    Tarver, Toney, Ruiz were only good fights.
     
  14. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Its very funny that you made some time to criticized pacs resume but suddenly blinded by roy's resume...:lol::rofl Give it some time dumbass, and you'll see holes clearly...And oh, which fight was roy the underdog?:lol::rofl Stop hating and just GTFO!!!:smoke
     
  15. DatBo215

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    Manny has a solid resume, although I think his ability and status is a little inflated by his recent accomplishments, but its hard to call him the fighter of the decade with guys like Hopkins and Mosley having fought during that same period of time.