The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if pac wins hell fight floyd, if cotto wins i can honestly see them putting him in with margaritto again
     
  2. pit

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    This fight should have been made years ago, so don't lay this all at floyd's door,Shane is just as much to blame as floyd . Shane thought by beating oscar he would be the next oscar and it did not work out that way, and he dissed floyd because he thought it would not be a attractive fight.

    He had a chance to fight floyd in 07 but instead made a ridicules statement that floyd should fight margarito and the winner should fight him,,?!?! Hello who in the hell did shane think he was ?!? The winner should fight him !?!? this is just one of the many mistakes made by both parties not just floyd.
     
  3. zchen

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    From: http://fighthype.com/pages/content6111.html

    PC: You are now known as the dude that went at Mayweather, but honestly, when I heard the interview, I didn't hear a guy that hated Mayweather or thought he didn't have any skills. It sounds like you respect his skills, but don't feel he is challenging himself. Is that the case?

    R.A.: Yeah, exactly! See, that's the thing, you are a fight fan. You have all of these hip hop fans that don't know the difference and say, "Ah, R.A. is just a hater." I have plenty of love for Mayweather and I was telling him he has incredible skills and he has what it takes to be ****ing great! He has that gift and I said that various times during that interview. I was just saying prove it. If you are as great as you say, show it to us. The boxing game isn't as popular as it used to be in the mainstream world. We have less and less great fighters because it's less cats doing boxing. In the 60's, 70's and 80's, when Sugar Ray Leonard would fight, that **** was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Any fights that happened were covered all over the mainstream media and mainstream news. Every kid wanted to be Leonard and Ali. It is a different era now because we have very few mainstream boxing icons. Kids aren't looking up to the fighters like they used to. They are looking at other sports like football, baseball and mixed martial arts. It is a different sport now, so when I see someone with that much greatness and he's just throwing it away in the toilet and not helping this era…Floyd is just going to throw it away and play little games with his fans and the boxing world and pretend like he's fighting the best when we all know he's playing games right now. That's why all of the boxing fans…I didn't know it was going to have the impact that it did.

    I just went up to the radio show to promote my record, you know? I had no idea Floyd Mayweather was going to call in and then all of a sudden, everybody heard that ****, from Bob Arum to Shaquille O' Neal. Paul Williams tweeted me thanking me for the support, Zab Judah heard it, Berto and Malignaggi were twittering about it, Ring Magazine and Maxboxing hit me up. It was this big deal and I guess it's because boxing isn't in the mainstream like it used to be. It's a big deal that a hip hop artist would have the history and knowledge about something that's not in the mainstream anymore, you know? That's why Mayweather gets away with it because he fights in the mainstream and the mainstream fans believed that the Marquez fight was supposed to be competitive. They really believed that's the best fight out there. And the funny thing is when you ask him why he won't fight Shane Mosley, he says, "He's old and he sucks." And I'm like it's okay for him to fight Marquez and not Mosley? You really think Marquez has a shot at beating Mosley? Another thing is, name one top 5 welterweight that Juan Manuel Marquez could beat? He can't beat a welterweight. I don't even think Marquez could beat Timothy Bradley and them dudes at 140. Everybody that knows boxing knew before the fight that Mayweather was going to do that to Marquez. You have some fans that watch one or two fights a year who thought that fight would be competitive, but not everybody is a freak of nature like Pacman and could move up to 147 and do his thing. That's why it takes someone who is a freak of nature like Pacquiao to do that ****. ****, I figured Pacman would beat Hatton, but I thought Hatton would have lasted 8 or 9 rounds. Pacquiao ****ing obliterated Hatton.

    PC: I truly believe Floyd thought he was going on a hip hop show that was going to kiss his ass like they do on 106 & Park and shows like that, so when you went in on him, he was caught off guard.

    R.A.: Yeah! It's funny because my co-host on there…it was the Shade 45, the Rude Jude Show, and that's exactly what he did. "Hey, what's up Floyd, what's up?" I could tell he was a little happy to get him on, but I said, "Nah, nah. This ain't happening." Because we were just talking about him not fighting the best and then when he gets on the phone, we can't just be like, "Hey, how are you doing Floyd?" Let's ask him the goddamn questions. You gotta see some of the ****ing hate coming in, like people trying to say it was racially motivated. They were saying I must not like black people and that's just ****ing ignorant. I'm telling him to fight Paul Williams and to fight Shane Mosley, so why would I tell him to fight other black fighters? He hasn't fought a black fighter in 4 fights, you know? It's funny ****. They want to bring up stupid **** and make **** sound ignorant, but pulling the race card doesn't always win the argument. The funny thing is Floyd lied throughout the entire interview. When I asked him why didn't he fight Margarito for 8 million and he said he got 12 million to fight Baldomir…no you didn't! Why are you lying? And then he said he got 8 million to fight Sharmba Mitchell. No you didn't! Why are you lying to me? I guess he thought that people wouldn't know and he was just going to lie throughout the interview. And let me tell you something. The other lie that he told was when he said he didn't know who I was. He acted like he didn't know who I was, but you notice he pulled the race card on me right away? He was like, "Why? Cause I'm black?" If you don't know who I am, how do you know I'm white?

    PC: I definitely think you said what a lot of people feel, but maybe can't express that with the thought of maybe losing access to him or something.

    R.A.: Exactly! I'm a mother****ing underground rapper. I'm not scared of losing my job. If somebody with a job would talk to him like that, his PR people could call the network and it could be a big ****ing stink. What do I give a ****? What, are they going to stop me from rapping? It's nothing nobody could do to hurt my career. I do what I do. They can't fire me or get me in trouble or fined or anything. I'm who I am and it was a good situation because it made some noise. I didn't think it would make the impact that it did because it was just a little phone call, but maybe because it has made the circles in boxing, maybe something as stupid as Floyd arguing with a rapper who is a boxing fan could get in this mother****ers head and affect who the **** he fights next and prevent a Hatton rematch. But who the **** knows, maybe not too. Maybe I'm thinking too far into it.

    PC: So just to be clear, you're not even saying that Floyd can't beat a Pacquiao or a Mosley, but you want to see these fights played out in the ring?

    R.A.: Exactly. That's the other thing; exactly! I don't think he'll beat Paul Williams (laughing), but we've seen Paul Williams not look so good against Carlos Quintana and he looked human against Margarito. Paul Williams won the fight, but it was a very close fight that could have went either way. I think Williams won more rounds, but I think Margarito was doing more damage. I think Williams is getting better in every fight and with him throwing 1,100 and 1,200 punches a fight, it's going to be tough to deal with and I don't know if Floyd can deal with that, but if Floyd is as great as he says he is, he could shock me. He could whip Paul Williams' ass, whoop Shane's ass and then whoop the Pacquiao/Cotto winner. I think he has a great chance of beating Shane. He would be favored to win the fight, but it would be a far closer fight than his fight against Marquez, who is a small guy. Shane could take anything that Floyd throws at him. Floyd's not going to be able to hurt Shane. Shane is bigger than him and Shane is going to be coming forward the entire time. Zab Judah presented some problems and I give credit to Floyd. He figured him out and did his thing, but mentally, Judah is nowhere near where Mosley is and especially since he's got Naazim in his corner. That dude is like a mathematician trainer. He knows the math and science behind that ****. He knows how to look at fights and figure **** out. That's how Shane sonned Margarito and Hopkins did the same to Kelly Pavlik, because Naazim knows every movement being made by the opponent. Shane has Naazim now, and his wife is out of his camp, so that would be an interesting matchup. But Floyd could most definitely beat all of those cats, but I just want to see him do it.

    I see people saying I was disrespectful to Floyd, but I was very respectful to Floyd for most of the interview. The only time I got a little bit uppity is when he discredited every fighter, from Sugar Ray Leonard to ****ing Bernard Hopkins and Shane Mosley and Pacquiao. Anybody you named, he discredited and acted like they weren't ****. You can't disrespect everybody. He tried to get me to be disrespectful and called me a ***** and I'm like, "We're talking over microphones." It's no reason for me to say that to Floyd Mayweather. People say I wouldn't say it to his face. Yes I would. Everything that I said in the interview, I would say to his face. I wasn't saying, "Go **** your mother! Fight me" or "I will stick a gun in your mouth" or anything like that. I said, "Fight the best. Let's make the fights happen." But I don't know. I don't think that's being too crazy. Whatever people want to think, you know?
     
  4. BewareofDawg

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    Shane has made numerous career mistakes. But that "toothache" thing had to do with Oscars plans to fight Floyd and he most likely asked Shane not to get in the way of that. Shane did not fear Floyd, Floyd does not fear shane. These things come with the territory.
     
  5. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the way I see it too. They know that with Floyd's reputation for being a cherry picker, people will blame him. In reality fighting pacquiao would be cherry picking as well but people seem to think that manny has a chance.

    It's easy to say Floyd doesn't want to fight you if you made no effort at all to make the fight happen.
     
  6. Bazooka

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    Sorry but no where did I read Arum say if Pac or Cotto win, he just stated those were his plans for the next fight, Floyd already said he doesnt want to deal with Arum.

    Manny and Cotto along with Arum have moved on, no point in beating a dead horse, if Floyd really wanted the fights with either he could swallow his ****ing pride, and respect that both men work with a promoter.
     
  7. DobyZhee

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    There are better and more balanced fights for the Pacman at 140. Timothy Bradley and Edwin Valero would be viable replacements for a Pac/Floyd fight.
     
  8. ekar

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    Seems like a nagotiation stratagy. Floyd won't agree to a 50/50 split. Team Pac and Cotto are the best option for Floyd. Pac don't need that fight, unlike floyd he's not scared to lose and not afried to fight guys like mosley. I picture Floyd figthing Berto after Shane whoops his ass, or a fight with someone from 140 moving up mostlikely Nate cambel.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Top Rank CEO Bob Arum is not looking too far ahead but in the event Manny Pacquiao gets past Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14, the Hall of Fame promoter said a fight in a brand-new stadium being used by the Dallas Cowboys is a candidate to host the Filipino’s first fight in 2010. Arum said that while Las Vegas is a front-runner in staging a major boxing card, Dallas is keen in hosting a major show in its 50,000-seat venue and Pacquiao could be lined up to face Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico in a third meeting there on March 13, 2010. The main supporting fight will feature Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., said Arum. But if Cotto wins against Pacquiao, Arum said the most sensible thing to do is to bring Cotto back to New York in June 2010–in time for the annual Puerto Rican Independence Day celebrations–for a huge show at Yankee Stadium.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    Wether Mayweather is the biggest draw in the sport remains to be seen. Pacqiuao vs Cotto will probably beat PBF vs JMM numbers.

    PBF is a huge draw but i do believe the Pacman will show that he is an even bigger one.
     
  11. BITCH ASS

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    He probably doesn't want to deal with Floyd.
     
  12. Vitor Belfort

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    I don't really like the pacman-marquez 3 since marquez already is showing his age. Although he beat casamayor and diaz, he didn't dominate like a # 2 P4P boxers would be favor to do and against floyd he looks just that much older.

    I like the fact that arum wants this fight in texas since i live here but another opponent would be better. Perhaps shane mosley:lol::lol: I rather see pac vs mosley than a pac -marquez 3.
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    when did Pac vs Cotto become some sort of eliminator for the right to face PBF? That concept is laughable. Pacquiao is already one step ahead of Floyd in terms of greatness and if he beats Cotto then he will be 2 steps ahead.

    Floyd thinks all roads lead to Mayweather, but the truth is that boxing has many paths that lead to greatness, and that Pacquiao already has Floyd fading away in his rearview mirror.
     
  14. Bazooka

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    Floyd already stated, he does not wnat to do business with Arum so again how does this mean that Cotto and Pac dont want the fight? Pac clearly stated he dont think Floyd wants to fight him.
    its clear Pac wants the fight... its obvious Floyd does not want to "Deal with Arum" I mean fight either guy cus they both have a good shot at winning.... no wait wait he doesnt want to deal with Arum I forgot....
     
  15. Kid Cuba

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