Valuev +175; Haye -215 Over 10.5 -165; under 10.5 +135 (& Guide to American odds)

Wow.

Valuev by KTFO is looking delicious.

 

Yeah. Kinda. You actually win (profit) $75, with your $100 investment returned intact.

Basically odds of this type ("American" style) should be looked at as having a "base" of 100 (this symbolizes your investment). When looking at underdog odds (these will almost always have a plus sign: +) you simply subtract 100 to see how much you stand to profit on a win. In this case 175 - 100 = 75. So for every 100 (base) you put down, you get 75. If you bet 200 and win, you'll get your 200 back and profit an additional 150. If you only bet 10 and win, you'll get your ten back and profit seven dollars and fifty cents (total payout $17.50). Obviously if you lose, your invested base as bettor now belongs to the gamester.

Inversely, when looking at the "favorite" (nearly always preceded by a minus sign: -) you should look at it as how much you need to invest to profit the base. In other words, Haye is -215. That means to profit base (remember, base is always $100) you need to invest $215. So to keep it simple let's say you do just that - invest $215. You win, you get $315 (your investment + the base profit). If you invest double that line, or $430, and win you'll profit double the base ($200) and be paid out $630 altogether.

Favorites, clearly, are the riskier and less lucrative bet. If you're shaky at all on a favorite's chances and/or the negative number of the line is very large, the wise move is typically to leave it alone. The closer to zero a favorite is, the better the risk/reward ratio gets. Inversely, the higher a positive line is for an underdog, the more you logically stand to gain. However, if an underdog has a massive positive line it's probably for a reason, and you don't necessarily want to **** your cash away on a total longshot - the oddsmakers put in a good deal of effort determining these lines based on their research and expertise.

In this instance, I'm feeling a bit cocky in that my instincts strongly lean towards the positive lines provided by the oddsmakers. If you feel you know something they don't it's worth taking a calculated risk.

Go with your gut (but keep your head), and have fun. Good luck. :good

 

Exactly. Throwing a Benji or two on each seems more than worth it. Nik would really have to empty his enormous bowels and crap the entire king-size bed to not stop this chinny little man, IMO. :good

 

I think it's just a matter of what you're used to.

I became familiar with Fractional aka UK odds from doing vbookie. I'm equally comfortable with American or Decimal/European though. All make sense in a way. It's just conversion that can be a ***** (if you try to do it in your head). :yep