Prime Evander Holyfield vs the Klitschko brothers

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  1. Blood Green

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    I think both Klitschko's beat him. They're just too good at winning rounds.
     
  2. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wow, this an amazing analysis:patsch
     
  3. Blood Green

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    Holyfield is known for taking rounds off and unnecessarily taking punches to the face. Both Klitschko's fight very strategically and stay ahead in fights. I don't think Holy knocks either out, so at the end he loses a dec.
     
  4. lefthook89

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    thats a stupid reason, it has nothing to do with his skill set. its just your personal perception of what you consider "taking rounds off". holyfield is nothing like the fat lazy plodders the klitschkos have come so accustomed to fighting their careers. holyfield has a high work rate, granite chin, great defense and good power. wlad wouldn't have an answer for holyfields persistence and slick defense, wlad would get TKO'ed in the late rounds as his chin would fail him (as usual). and vitali, he would get out pointed as holyfields speed and elusiveness would get the better of vitali. so in short, the klitschkos individual flaws would be their downfall against a prime holyfield.
     
  5. Blood Green

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    Wow, you're really on Holy's nuts here. Holyfield has persistence and "slick defense" issues, to say the least. We have two references for how these fights could go: Lewis/Holyfield I and Lewis/Holyfield II.
     
  6. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    far from being a holyfield fan, im just stating the obvious. and if your only reason that holyfield would lose to the klitschkos is because he lost to lennox lewis, then theres no point in arguing with you. only teeny boppers that watch youtube videos all day uses the "who beat who" argument. losing to lennox lewis is not the blueprint for a klitschko victory, becuase if that were the case, i could counter that with wlad losing to mediocre journeymen as an indication holyfield would beat wlad, does that sound right to you??
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    It didn't impress me much at all. Standard heavyweight fare really, or at least what any world-class heavyweight should be doing.
    The way people making it as I was expecting an all-time level performance, hints of higher-level brilliance, hints of greatness.
    I guess I should take what's said on these boards regarding the Klit bros. with a pinch of salt.
     
  8. Boro chris

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    Wlad would be dangerous till hit and then unravel as we've all seen him do before. Mid rounds stoppage for Holyfield.
    Vitaly is a much better challenge and would give Holyfield all he could handle with his height, reach and awkwardness but I still think Evander has the natural ability and would pound out a clear but competitive ud.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

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    Standard heavyweight fare?? How many heavyweights his size can you name that share the handspeed, hooking off the jab, and general swiftness that he showed against Mercer? You could compare it with Holyfield vs Thomas. Both against opponents who have been through the grinder, but still have their durability. And both very impressive from a boxing technical point of view.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Holyfield threw loads of punches against Thomas, streams of combinations. I dont think Wladimir did against Mercer.
    Thomas was shot to **** against Holyfield anyway.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

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    Holyfield still looked impressive.

    Unfortunately i can't find the fight in good quality in Youtube and only a very brief highlight video that isn't even that good, since it doesn't include the knockdown, stoppage or other good moments, but still:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtfMDVGJdxM[/ame]

    Not bad.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    Wladimir Klitschko's performance against Ray Mercer, was nothing more than a classic case of a hot young fighter looking impressive at destroying a completely diminished opponent...Nothing more.. It was the comparable of such performances as Cooney vs Norton, Morrison vs Tillis, Ali vs Holmes, etc. etc..... Ray was 41 years of age, and hadn't truly beaten a quality opponent in more than 10 years, with the exception of an even older Witherspoon - a concencus robbery.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Not bad, but when it comes to dismantling out-of-shape has-beens, I prefer Frank Bruno myself :D :

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktApvPtOutM[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vluzMIpjtB0[/ame]
     
  14. Blood Green

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    Too emotional. Holyfield had all sorts of problems with the only skilled, tall fighting, big man he fought--Lennox; Bowe didn't fight tall and Valuev isn't too skilled. Both Klitschko's can fight similarly to Lennox except they'd initiate more clinches to avoid infighting. It would be an uphill battle for Holy.
     
  15. ChrisPontius

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    He sure has a lot of those. :lol: Wouldn't you say that Bruno is pretty solid offensively, though? If not for his durability and stamina problems, he'd be extremely hard to beat. Ironically, the same is true about Wlad, only he's a class above in almost every department, including and especially in those shortcomings.