Is George Foreman a top 10 heavyweight of all-time ?

show me yours first

 

good to know, im just trying to save you from embarassment. hopefully you know a little more about the ufc than you seem to about boxing.

 

yes

 

i know more about boxing than you think my friend, if you don't like it then say that you disagree, and don't come with bull**** spartan.

and marciano is on my list, cause he is 49-0
and thats incredible, even if your opposition is total ****, cause as the heavyweight champion you fight the best available contenders.

Tunney was a great boxer, he was smaller than his most opponents(in his heavyweight fights) and beat good fighters. about foreman at the number one spot, we can talk about that. I put him there because he was a great fighter in the seventies, who was beat by a smarter ali, and killed almost everyone else in the seventies, and because of his comeback in the 80/90.

Joe Louis... we don't need to discuss that, the same goes for holmes, holyfield, jack johnson

ali is overrated in my opinion, and lewis we can discuss this

 

well lets do it then, its not so much about the people on your list as your placement of them....tunney (i agree underappreciated although idk if hes top ten worthy, and moore although great is not a top ten hw) so please tell me why foreman is number one

 

these are the reasons why i said something in the first place, foreman at number one is crazy in my opinion. actually anyone other than ali or louis at number one is crazy

 

ok. foreman destroyed an unbeaten prime frazier, who beat ali. he destroyed ken norton who gave ali a hell of a fight, he beat lyle. in his prime he lost to ali and young.
the fight against ali=> very bad game plan, bad corner
i think a rematch in the states, foreman would have won by ko

i think that is enough to be in the top 20, but then comes his comeback

he didn't box for 10 years, comes back, give a young in prime top 10 all time heavy weight fighter holyfield a very tough fight, despite being kind of fat.
and beat after that an unbeaten world champion(moorer was ok, not very good, but he defeated a prime holyfield who was unbeaten)
and that makes him for me 1-3 best heavyweight alltime, you can change him in no order between louis and lewis

 

who beats him in your opinion then.i have him at 5 or 6 behind
ali,lewis, holmes and maybe liston and joe louis

 

frazier was unbeaten, fresh of his win against ali, and in his prime, to beat someone like that, my respect. and not only that he won, but the way how he really destroyed frazier and norton, thats the real impressive thing for me. that fight against young, i thought allways that foreman was not motivated

 

Yes. I usually rate him in the range of about 7-9. I think he's vastly overrated by some, who seem blind to his deficiences and regard him as invincible; on the other hand, I think others underrate him, usually for bad reasons eg. getting knocked down by Lyle in a fight after a long lay-off. To clarify, I rate on aggregate head-to-head, ie. how good a boxer is at beating a variety of different styles at the highest ability level. So if a boxer is effective against a limited range of opponents, eg. George Foreman or Ingemar Johanssen, it counts a lot against them.

 

i think that foreman lose to holmes on points, except holmes wants to slug it out, like in the shavers fight.
for me is the top ten all time on the greatest boxers not the best boxers.
liston, i think there is noway that he win against foreman, joe louis was great but i don't think that he would have a chance against the top boxers from the 70 till now.
and lennox lewis would have completly destroyed foreman

 

yeah thats quite difficult with norton, the strange thing with norton is that i don't rate him high, but he fought great fighters in his prime and except the foreman fight, that were all very close tough fights, holmes, ali, young, which he won or lost
the fight against morrisson i never saw, so i can't say something about that, but looking at morrissons chin, foreman had to knock him out