Cotto, " having trouble making weight "...

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  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    You can't expect anyone too win a fight just because they're too big. Neither Manny nor Miguel can win with just power. They both have to box great to win.

    If you don't want to hear a drained/shot excuse, don't use size either and just give credit to whoever wins. You don't want to hear that when Manny wins, so don't use it.

    Just because Oscar was drained or Hatton sucked, doesn't mean Manny gets NO credit anyway. He fought perfect, so he still gets credit. I don't think it has to be an all-or-nothing thing.

    Cotto already showed he can still take big punches against Clottey so I don't think anyone can use the Margarito fight as an excuse. I don't think he'll have a weight problem either. Could he have trouble w/ weight? Sure, but it doesn't mean Pacquiao gets NO credit.

    Superior skill will beat superior size!!!
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    You can say whatever you want and have your opinion, like you said if you think Cotto is drained you will say it. LIKEWISE If the fight plays out evenly and Cotto's size becomes an important factor I can talk about how the size was a big factor too, of course I can. What do you mean I don't want to hear it? I don't wanna hear stupid **** like Floyd ruined Hatton's chin. DLH being drained is nothing stupid and I agree with it.
     
  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Yes, okay if it plays out even and Cotto's size play a factor yes, but an all out excuse?

    I think whoever can outbox the other will win though.
     
  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Of course not an all out excuse. It's not like any bum bigger than Pac is gonna beat him. Of course it's because Cotto is a good fighter himself.
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Hatton's chin deteriorated over time, but he still would have lost. You want to say, oh look, Pac beat Hatton so much easier so he must be better than Mayweather? It's not that simple either.
     
  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Okay, that's all I'm saying.:lol:
     
  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Trust me I don't believe that, not even close. I've never said anything like it. Right now if Pac and Floyd fight I favor Floyd. Of course I would root for Pac.

    Don't put people into groups like we all have the same exact opinions because we are all fans of one fighter.
     
  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    His chin didnt deteriorated over time dumbass ,he just never had a good chin and walking straight to punches with his chin up in the air doesnt help either.

    but saying his chin wasnt the same is just stupid and only shows that you havent seen much of Hatton.
     
  9. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Hey, I don't put all *******'s in the same group!:lol:
     
  10. TommyV

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    How the **** would you know? It's probably harder than you can imagine when you're already a cut 146/147 and don't have any fat left to lose.
     
  11. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Explain all the shots he took off of Kostya Tszyu, who is leagues above Pacquiao in terms of power at 140lbs.
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Ah, yeah no defense is a problem.:lol: That was just idiotic. Hatton still would have lost, but he would have lasted longer.:lol:

    Losing and gaining weight like Hatton always did can reduce ability to take punishment though. I never said his chin was GREAT.

    Hey, I said Hatton's habits would catch up to him against Pac BEFORE the fight. Hatton fans thought it was nonsense, and *******s were uncertain about the fight, but I believed he would beat the **** out of Hatton all along.
     
  13. FrochPascal

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    :deal

    unless they are trying to trick us and come in at 147 anyhow i would be extremely dissapointed
     
  14. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Win or lose. I will say the same thing I say everytime Cotto is coming close to a fight. I don't think Bob Arum is watching for Cotto's best interests. I honestly consider Bob Arum to be Cotto's worst enemy. Even in the Margarito fight all the promotion was focus on Tony. After the Clottey's fight they even interviewed Clottey's first!!!!!
    Now, even before their fight, Manny Pacquiao already has a date separated for his next fight.
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Ok but its just a dumb excuse that some of Pac haters use,cause that punch would've koed any version of Hatton.