Anyone think Haye DIDN'T beat Valuev?

no,i genuinely think he did enough,not quite as conclusively as some of the general forum think!,but who listens to them and their strange opinions!.
haye employed the right tactics with his hit and move policy (thankyou holyfield!).
it must have been like hitting an anvil,as haye's hands found out.
i also think that the early body punches from haye had a profound effect on valuev and he had to "suck it up" a few times.it was the most sensible fight tactics i have seen haye and booth employ.
a big shout to adam booth who got his man in peak condition,and kept him fantastically calm throughout with brilliant corner-work!.
all credit to valuev,who recovered well in the last round and was repectfull in losing.you can't carry on being regarded as h/w champ by being impossible to topple,he has had a good reign .
haye won by using the only tactics he could and the fight was never going to look sensational (point i was trying to make to my half-fan freinds who wouldn't shut up last night! "this is boring","why is he not standing toe-to-toe with him?","knock him out!".it will be the last time they will be coming to mine for a fight!.!).
i fancy an exciting few years in the h/w division now,which wouldn't have happened if valuev would have got the decision,something i think that the judges finally succomed to last night.
thanks david:good

 

Cannot for the life of me understand the contraversy about this fight.
Thought it was fairly one sided. True Haye didn't do much but Valuev did nothing. Just plodded after Haye falling short with his jabs and making the odd, ineffectual lunge.
The response in the gf has been nothing short of pathetic. If I thought it was a sanatorium for the insane before, well its just got a whole lot worse.

 

I watched a polish stream lastnight so didnt have the sky sports commentary, but the 5 live commentary on, and i gave it to haye by 4 rounds.....

And did anyboday actually expect Haye to stand toe to toe with him????

 

Most of the rounds featured a whole lot of nothing, Haye was very inactive and I thought for sure the close rounds would be going to Valuev in Germany, but Haye was at least landing some nice shots in between bursts of standing there, whereas Valuev kept up more of pace but missed virtually everything. So I though Haye should have won but at the end didn't think he would because he was leaving too much in the hands of the judges by doing so little.

 

I thought it was a close fight, but had Haye winning 115-114. Some close rounds, but the right fighter won the fight.

 

Watching it from a 'German perspective I felt Valuev was winning 116-112. Seemed a very similar fight to Froch-Dirrell, bet is the same people moaning (haters) and Haye utilised a Floyd-esque jab to the pit of the stomach well, made Valuev miss constantly and employed ring generalship on the back foot, landing most of the punches he actually threw. So whilst I feel it was a close fight, winning a decision in Germany, lasting the distance and being the first man to visibly hurt Valuev, not a bad nights work. Now to 'Do a Tua' on Ruiz :deal see you there lads :good

 

why does it make someone a bellend to have an opinion,tell your just a little keyboard warrior,you immature little *****

 

he beat him,no doubt about it,but was worried cos it was germany,only that

 

ahhh,grow up man

 

and why does it make me jim watt,when i thaught haye didnt do enough...im not the only one,so you saying that everybody that had valuev winning is jim watt?

 

:roll:...boring!

 

As a stand alone fight Haye clearly won.

If your going into the winning the belt/going to someones hometown debate, then its less clear cut.

 

Right ! How can you not think Haye won the fight, Valuev was hitting fresh air all night long and getting his head rocked every time Haye hit him, If anybody on this planet thinks Valuev beat Haye in that fight seriously dont have a clue about boxing because he made the circus freak look like a circus freak SIMPLE.

 

So very one sided...

How can you win a contest by not landing with any punches...:think

Haye picked his shots when he could get them through, he did this througout the contest.

He kept the right pace for his own fight strategy...:yep Haye boxed his own fight and not Valuev's.

The Heavyweight division now has a Champion that will make it more appealing....and the best part about it is that the Hayemaker is British...:happy

 

I thought he won the fight but I was surprised he got the decision, I had almost resigned myself to the fact it was gonna go against him.