Haye's Chin: STILL Questionable!!!

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  1. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amazing how people will turn Haye slipping, ducking and avoiding dozens of punches for round after round into a criticism.
     
  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Maccarinelli??? A mediocre domestic level fighter with a PROVEN glass jaw - starched by some British bum - who makes Haye look like George Chuvalo?? Puh-leez!! :lol:
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why are you laughing? I make one point, you misread it and what I said was laughable?

    I don't and never have rated Maccarinelli. However, you said Haye ran to protect his chin, in which case, why didn't he run against other punchers? For all his faults, Macca can is a puncher.

    He also has better technique than Valuev too. Haye has beaten better offensive fighters than Valuev and not run. In a fight he breaks his hand in the 2nd round, he fights on the backfoot and now you say hes scared?
     
  4. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you really a class one ******ed w*nker with sh*t for brains or are you just practicing to be one?

    Haye won the fight fair and square now get over it and stop bitching like a little girl.
     
  5. DLT

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    brilliant :good
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Well, for one thing, if you are facing a guy who has a worse glass jaw than you do, you can afford to gamble a little more. Let's not forget that Maccarinelli is not just china-chinned, he's also slow, inept and clumsy. AND he wasn't a HW, but a cruiserweight.

    Most of my concern about Haye's chin is predicated on two things - his tendency to get wobbled or hit the deck at cruiser, and the fact that HWs tend to hit harder. So far, Haye's dodged the bullet - and he deserves some credit for that, although running like he did against Valuev doesn't sit well with a lot of fans - but he's not gonna be able to dodge it forever!!!
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    You sound a little upset, nuthugger. Could it be because you KNOW that Haye's chin is shaky and are worried when he faces a puncher, he's gonna get KTFO???:lol:
     
  8. zfc

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    I am not worried in the slightest as Haye will overcome any fighter who is put in front of him including the Klits.

    I am worried for you and your lover Rico as the pair of you are looking more and more stupid with every post.

    Now get back to that room with Rico he has a small deposit to make and you left him on the verge of cumming when you mentioned the words glass jaw.
     
  9. DLT

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    ...there both about 11 or something, probably havent started pubity yet. i hope they dont let all this nonsense get in there way of there homework.
     
  10. Jmwturner

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    I would say that Haye's cruiserweight speed in the HW realm means he is less likely to be hit cleanly, so wouldn't surprise me if he is less susceptible to big shots at HW because his movement means when they do hit they're either semi-blocked or glancing.

    Question marks are still there, but it adds to the excitement and David is fully aware of his chin, no one likes taking blows and boxing is all about slipping and hitting.
     
  11. DLT

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    pawned
     
  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Ah, the delusional of the blind fanboy. Oh, I can't WAIT til Haye faces EITHER Klit and gets laid out cold!!!! That's gonna be a GREAT night on ESB, if I can get on!!!:lol:
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Sonny, I've probably been watching boxing since before you were born. Ali was champ when I started following this sport, and I've seen MANY glass jawed fighters get exposed over the years. It remains to be seen if Haye will join them, but the way you nuthuggers prattle on just makes many of us root all the more for that to happen.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maccarinelli is not a slow puncher. He also has good punching technique. His flaws are that he gets sloppy late in fights, and he lacks a chin.

    You are going to be precaucious, if you think he has the power to knock you out. Maccarinelli did, apparently, have the power to hurt Haye, yet Haye walked straight into his offense. He wasn't afraid of being hit. Frankly, Haye is so much of a better boxer, he could have simply outboxed Maccarinelli, like he did Valuev, totally avoid getting hit clean and still stopped him. Yet he chose to fight.

    There's absolutely no reason to suggest that Haye has ever been scared of being hit.
    I agree that his chin was weaker at cruiserweight and if it didn't improve, he would be stopped.

    However, his chin has improved! There is a long list of fighters whose punch resistance has been hindered because of extreme weight draining. Miguel Cotto, Nigel Benn, Amir Khan...even granite chinned fighters like James Toney. There are medical reports backing the theory suggesting that boxers who drain themselves too much, are prone to brain damage because their brains lack the water to cushion any blows. Therefore, boxers who weight drain like Haye did, are more likely to get knocked down.

    He has now taken punches at heavyweight, by a proper heavyweight. Something you didn't think he would do. I think it's time you accept his chin is better than it was.



    Just answer me this one question. Knowing Haye has always fought offensively against big punchers and better punchers, do you not think the fact that this fight was different, is more down to the size difference and Haye breaking his hand? What reason do you have, to say that Haye was scared of getting hit, given that he's fought people more likely to knock him out in the past, and never took a backwards step?
     
  15. lolb

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    Last night didn't prove anything about Haye's chin. But getting on his back about fighting on the back foot is a bit harsh. It was the smart way to fight. It's not everyday you have to fight a 7 foot giant who out weighs you by 7 stone. I know he wasn't anywhere near as aggresive as we'd hoped but he still got the job done, bad hand or not. I think if he fights one of the brothers Klit he will engage a bit more. But it's stupid to think he's going to just go in there and have a slugfest with these big guys.